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sales tax: guide

updated wed 18 apr 07

 

Dan Pfeiffer on mon 16 apr 07


I like the idea of having even price values without the tax making for
small change. To make this easy to do and still keep the tax showing on the
receipt I wrote a little program. You enter state county and city tax rates
and a file name and it prints out the target price, 1-100, the real price
and the tax. We always use a cash register and by using this guide I still
get it to keep up with sales and tax totals. The plan is to put the total
price on the pot and key in the real price. This makes it easy if a pot
ends up in more than one show we would not need to change the price on the
pot if the tax changes but does make the price look higher. We have a show
this coming weekend so we will give it a try and see how it works. One
other option would be to price the work with the price that will come up
even but then this could make for more work at the next show and you would
have very odd looking prices.

If anyone is interested in such a program let me know and after I do a bit
more cleanup work on it I will send it to you. I also need to do more
testing to make sure that when selling a number of pieces there is not a
rounding error in the tax calculation. I am not sure how the register does
its calculation, on the total or per idem. My table being per idem this
could be a problem. Maybe add fields to set the min/max value.

One more idea is maybe on the more expense work you do add tax to the work
as it is more likely to be paid with a card anyway. We make very little
about 100 so this is not a problem yet but I could see that the price of
the work could make a difference in what you do. Like most things in
pottery there is not a good clean one way fits all! I like the thought of
having everything 30 and under " what you see is what you pay" and all else
is tag price + tax. This would help kids who buy cheap things as gifts but
may in the end be too complex to really work.

Dan & Laurel

jim on mon 16 apr 07


I use a simple program like that also but in a much more restricted way. At
all my shows, every piece is evenly priced. I do not charge tax on
anything. I also don't state one way or the other. The customer picks up a
$50 pot and gives me $50.. At the end of each show as I am recording the
sales at home, I enter the total sales done, and my program breaks it out
into sales dollars and tax. Very quick and easy for filing my sales tax.
But then again as I read all the complexity of some postings I just wonder
what I miss out on. I just plain keep it as simple as I can until forced to
do other wise and that is not often. I have NEVER written out a receipt for
a sale. Now like I said I only do shows but have never had reason to or a
request for one. Only a couple occasions have I jotted down a total price
on one of my cards for someone that paid by Card and wanted to remember the
amount. So far haven't had any problems with it and hope that I don't. If
the need arises I will change but until then I like to keep it simple.

Jim

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Dan Pfeiffer
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:21:36 -0500
Subject: Sales tax: Guide

> I like the idea of having even price values without the tax making
> for small change. To make this easy to do and still keep the tax
> showing on the receipt I wrote a little program. You enter state
> county and city tax rates and a file name and it prints out the
> target price, 1-100, the real price and the tax. We always use a
> cash register and by using this guide I still get it to keep up with
> sales and tax totals. The plan is to put the total price on the pot
> and key in the real price. This makes it easy if a pot ends up in
> more than one show we would not need to change the price on the pot
> if the tax changes but does make the price look higher. We have a
> show this coming weekend so we will give it a try and see how it
> works. One other option would be to price the work with the price
> that will come up even but then this could make for more work at the
> next show and you would have very odd looking prices.
>
> If anyone is interested in such a program let me know and after I do
> a bit more cleanup work on it I will send it to you. I also need to
> do more testing to make sure that when selling a number of pieces
> there is not a rounding error in the tax calculation. I am not sure
> how the register does its calculation, on the total or per idem. My
> table being per idem this could be a problem. Maybe add fields to
> set the min/max value.
>
> One more idea is maybe on the more expense work you do add tax to
> the work as it is more likely to be paid with a card anyway. We make
> very little about 100 so this is not a problem yet but I could see
> that the price of the work could make a difference in what you do.
> Like most things in pottery there is not a good clean one way fits
> all! I like the thought of having everything 30 and under " what
> you see is what you pay" and all else is tag price + tax. This would
> help kids who buy cheap things as gifts but may in the end be too
> complex to really work.
>
> Dan & Laurel
>
>
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Pfeiffer Fire Arts on tue 17 apr 07


We have settled on an approach we think will work for us. We really like the
idea of not doing coin change but I do not feel comfortable not having a
receipt and we like to use the register to keep up with inventory and show
totals. So what we are planning to do is to have the ware labeled with the
total price and use the table to key in the real price and then key in the
tax for this idem. This avoids any rounding problems and gives us a nice tax
total at the end of the show. This is a bit more typing but it lets us use
the register to add and looks more profession to have a nice itemized
receipt.

Dan & Laurel

<<<< I use a simple program like that also but in a much more restricted
way. At
all my shows, every piece is evenly priced. I do not charge tax on
anything. I also don't state one way or the other. The customer picks up a
$50 pot and gives me $50.. At the end of each show as I am recording the
sales at home, I enter the total sales done, and my program breaks it out
into sales dollars and tax. Very quick and easy for filing my sales tax.
But then again as I read all the complexity of some postings I just wonder
what I miss out on. I just plain keep it as simple as I can until forced to
do other wise and that is not often. I have NEVER written out a receipt for
a sale. Now like I said I only do shows but have never had reason to or a
request for one >>>>>