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why isn't form enough

updated thu 31 oct 96

 

Dan Wilson on mon 28 oct 96



If we define form as the shape and structure of an object or the mode in
wich a thing exists or manifests itself and then apply this to the.....

I think it has something to do with taste. I mean each individual
develops a vocabulary, so to speak, that attatches itself to larger
concepts. For example, "beauty is..". this vacabulary becomes a set of
conditions wich must be met before the individual can say "that is
beautiful". That may explain why form isn't enough for everyone since taste
develops with knowlege and experience. As an artist, "knowing when to stop"
may mean knowing when their set of conditions has been met.

mayonaise

Bob Kavanagh on tue 29 oct 96

Good morning Dan

I find a question like this a bit confusing because it's not clear to me
the general or specific context within which it is placed. I do agree with
others that this forum is indeed a natural setting for such questions. On
eof hte main disadvantages of virtual contact is that our messages tend to
be fairly short, and not easily integrated into larger pictures which we
know we share.

For example, if the question about form is related only to a specific
purpose or function then one set of things comes to mind; for me in this
context, if the question is why do I put glaze on my salad bowls instead of
just letting the form be the total package then one set of things enters my
mind. If on the other hand the question is posed in an historical context
of aesthetic theory then another; or if we were discussing what we take to
be the Bauhaus dictum about form and function then another; or if we ask
about the texture and "natural" finish of the material which constitutes
this form, then another bunch of ideas and images enter my mind. The
question can be very vague, vague questions often open avenues not
foreseen, or very precise, but I like a surrounding for it.

Maybe another way of putting my lack of clarity (of which I naturally have
an abundance in the best of circumstances), "enough for what"?

Have a fine day.

bob kavanagh (60 km west of montreal)

Dan Wilson on wed 30 oct 96



Bob,

You're right of course and the deficiency appears to be on my part. In my
zealous effort to keep my messages short and concise I have deleted the
original message from some of my replies. This does remove the message from
its context. I'll not do that again. As for the question? It was raised by
"Chris Bliss" and is as follows:

>-----------------------------Original Question-------------------------------<

why isn't form enough we have always done more.... i have heard "art is
knowing when to stop" yet we hide the power of the form under layers and
alterations.
i ask why isn't form enough?


bliss.
Bliss Pottery
kbliss@customcpu.com
13781 Arne Erickson Cir.
Anchorage, Alaska 99515
907 3456884

<-------------------------original message----------------------------------->

>Good morning Dan
>
>I find a question like this a bit confusing because it's not clear to me
>the general or specific context within which it is placed. I do agree with
>others that this forum is indeed a natural setting for such questions. On
>eof hte main disadvantages of virtual contact is that our messages tend to
>be fairly short, and not easily integrated into larger pictures which we
>know we share.
>
>For example, if the question about form is related only to a specific
>purpose or function then one set of things comes to mind; for me in this
>context, if the question is why do I put glaze on my salad bowls instead of
>just letting the form be the total package then one set of things enters my
>mind. If on the other hand the question is posed in an historical context
>of aesthetic theory then another; or if we were discussing what we take to
>be the Bauhaus dictum about form and function then another; or if we ask
>about the texture and "natural" finish of the material which constitutes
>this form, then another bunch of ideas and images enter my mind. The
>question can be very vague, vague questions often open avenues not
>foreseen, or very precise, but I like a surrounding for it.
>
>Maybe another way of putting my lack of clarity (of which I naturally have
>an abundance in the best of circumstances), "enough for what"?
>
>Have a fine day.
>
>bob kavanagh (60 km west of montreal)