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venting

updated sat 21 mar 98

 

lauras@epix.net on fri 5 jul 96

I have a basement studio with a window at ground level. I am planning
to put in a fan to keep the room free of all kinds of dust. Will a small
muffin fan in the window do or do I need something heavy duty? The room
is about 15'x15'. I have a muffin fan in the kiln room and that does a
great job, I smell nothing in the rest of the house. Any information
would be helpful - the man is in the working mood. Thanks
lauras@epix.net

Lori Wilkinson on fri 5 jul 96

At 12:15 PM 7/5/96 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I have a basement studio with a window at ground level. I am planning
>to put in a fan to keep the room free of all kinds of dust. Will a small
>muffin fan in the window do or do I need something heavy duty? The room
>is about 15'x15'. I have a muffin fan in the kiln room and that does a
>great job, I smell nothing in the rest of the house. Any information
>would be helpful - the man is in the working mood. Thanks
>lauras@epix.net
>
>
What's a muffin fan? Just curious.

Lori in Roswell NM where it is nice and green after the rains. Back to
sawdust firing.

Janet Price on sat 6 jul 96

I'm going to be moving soon (to Waukesha WI) and will not be able to simply
leave my garage door open for venting my electric kiln. The house I've
bought has a garage that is very close to the street, with schools
nearby, and curious kids likely to walk past. If I put a fan in a
window in the garage, is that adequate? This is an attached garage with
an enclosed breezeway between the house and garage. I must admit that
it will be nice not to have to carry stuff back and forth thru the snow
and ice in winter.

Thanks for any advice.
--
Janet Price (jprice@kzoo.edu)
Director of Academic Computing
Kalamazoo College

Don Sanami on sat 6 jul 96

For less thgan forty dollars a used furnace blower may be purchased.These
come in various sizes and air volumes but a blower with a 10 inch
inlet/outlet will do very well for a room as large as2000sqft IN fact,an
old clothese dryer would probably work quite well. Added to either
arrangement,drier exhaust hoses can easily be installed at both the
wheel and at the wedgeing bench.We are sure other methods might present
themselves,with a little thought.After nearly forty years of
potting,emphysema does not appeal to us. kinoko@junction.net CanadafOn
Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Lori Wilkinson wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> At 12:15 PM 7/5/96 EDT, you wrote:
> >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >I have a basement studio with a window at ground level. I am planning
> >to put in a fan to keep the room free of all kinds of dust. Will a small
> >muffin fan in the window do or do I need something heavy duty? The room
> >is about 15'x15'. I have a muffin fan in the kiln room and that does a
> >great job, I smell nothing in the rest of the house. Any information
> >would be helpful - the man is in the working mood. Thanks
> >lauras@epix.net
> >
> >
> What's a muffin fan? Just curious.
>
> Lori in Roswell NM where it is nice and green after the rains. Back to
> sawdust firing.
>

Carl Ross on fri 27 sep 96

Sharon, bonnie, judith, et al

I drilled the holes right away, I still should probably clean out the vent
itself. It sounds like there is something in it so I probably should have
done it before I assembled it, The electrician hooked up the power yesterday
and I hope that doesn't cost too much. I inspected and it looks good, it's on
it's own circuit. And it's to the specs from Skutt. Skutt said that there
should be no more then 4 - 90 degree turns and no more the 40 feet of duct.
The vent is supposed to take a very small amount of hot air from the
environment and combine that with a larger amount of air from the room too
cool it down and blow it all the way out of the building.



That is a relief to hear it actually isn't hot.

Gotta Go,

Carl In Phillips



P.S.

on the Sheetrock, it is asbestos free according to the manufacturer USG. I
had to remove asbestos from the heating pipes at our bakery which beleive me
was not fun!

mel jacobson on mon 11 nov 96

>Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 09:06:15
>To: clayart@lsv.uky.edu
>From: mel jacobson
>Subject: venting
>
>years ago i read about a natural draft vent for an electric kiln in CM. i
now use it. (i wish i could draw it.) i have a 4" stainless steel pipe
running through the roof of my studio open at both ends. it runs down the
back of my elec. kiln to within 15" of the floor. i welded a 1" pipe to it
that extends into the kiln at a slight downward angle into the top three
inches of the kiln. i have plugged the entire kiln with k-wool. it
actually draws all of the crud out of the kiln and away from my room. i can
be in the studio working with the kiln on and not smell anything. it works.
i remember the author suggesting the use of flexible stainless pipe for
venting out of the side wall or window... it is important to use stainless
for the fumes will corrode any normal piping. (think what it does to you.) i
can send of fax to anyone who wishes plans for this... mel
jacobson/minnesota fax phone 612 935 5434
>
>ps... why don't we let others decide if we make art or not... let's get on
with making stuff...if it is art someone will let you know... if it is craft
(and well crafted) others will come and buy it and use it. i really do not
like to attach labels to things i make, but gosh i love making stuff. (and
as i have stated before "i love tools that make stuff". mel
>

Mel Jacobson on fri 20 mar 98

i have some drawings that show the vent system that i use
for my electric kiln, several have asked..
please email me a fax number and i will send them.

\aluminum tubing is rotten for vents....one should use stainless steel,
sometimes found in flex form. starts expensive, but lasts for years.

i do believe that nils is using some form of plan for that vent in his
new book (unless he left it on the floor of his computer room)

my vent is all gravity, a stainless one inch tube into the back top of the
kiln welded to a 4 inch stainless pipe that goes through the ceiling.
it is open on both ends so works just like a smoke stack. i then close
all openings in my electric kiln with k/wool.'

of course all of my kilns have been sprayed with itc...and the coils.
and of course it works...i do not care for the engineering specs...it works.
and that is all that counts.
my pots are better. i just want the reflection.....get the heat back on
the pots....just like an old kiln. linda blossom has tested this stuff til
she turned green....she even coated her finger nails. looks great.
and she is correct about her research, it works.
it is sort of like cracking clay.....cracking pots, some people just
do not get it....if you are having problems....DO SOMETHING, make
changes...don't just keep doing the same thing over and over and
whinning about the results.

like the potter that fills a kiln so tight with pots, brags about how many
pots are in the kiln...and has a loss rate of 35%....and then does
it again the next time there is a firing. dumb. i have one shelf, just
one, that is always a touch cold....i put a couple of bricks in that
spot. they love it there. save those pots for the next firing.

being a crafts person is about materials, tools and skills....we gather
that stuff over time, and we always have to be open to new ideas,
new techniques and methods, and share it with others. our materials are
always changing and we must be mindful of that...and no claymaker in the
world can make a clay that is perfect for all....that is why pug mills were
invented...it is like the old saw, one size fits all, but of course no one
well. I have been buying clay from `continental and `minnesota for almost
40 years...never once got a bad batch....but boy have i made some bad, icky
pots in that time...but never once blamed the swarthof's. (owners of
continental clay)

it is so great that we have places like `highwater, trinity, continental,
axner`, and the list goes on and on.....i have found over the years that
they really try and do their best.....and that is pretty good.

mel/mn






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