William C. Melcher on tue 1 apr 97
>From: Karen Greene
>Subject: Replaceable blades FINALLY!!
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>I have seen the ads for the replaceable blade trimming tools and wondered
>how they were. I am very tired of disposable trimming tools and dont seem
>to be talented enough to make my own. I have tried, with out success. So,
>tell me more about them. and if brown tools is monitoring the list--are
>you going to have them at NCECA. or is anyone else? I had been hoping to
>get a look at them there.
>Karen Greene, kgreene@olywa.net.
Karen et al:
Dolan Tools of Scottsdale,AZ makes trimming tools so good you will probably
never have to replace them. If any thing, they are too sharp (watch your fingers
when cleaning them). And Yes, they will be at NCECA.
Bill in Tucson, AZ
Chess Denman on sun 20 dec 98
Lynn Antone wrote:-
Trimming tools:
my favorite all around trimming tool is one I made from metal strapping tape
and bolted between two small pieces of wood. Nothing pretty, but has lasted
a
long time. Need to take it apart and put in new strapping tape soon.
I couldnt agree more about the value of metal straping tape. It is
fantastically versatile and strong. I have made scraping tools with a wide
range of profiles using it you can bend it into shapes with a hammer over a
surface and you can cut into and serate or shape the edge with a tool called
a dremmel or an angle grinder (if you dare)
CHess
Bruce Freund on mon 16 jun 03
A while back I purchased some extremely high quality trimming tools. They
some how went to "tool heaven". You know that is the place where all of the
tools we all loose seem to go. They have to go some where.
Does anyone know of the company that makes them. It is not Dolan and it is
not Brown, both of which make great tools.
bruce
Wayne Lewis on mon 16 jun 03
Bruce check out Chris Henleys tools. You can link to his tool site off of
his pottery site. Just type Chris Henley Pottery into a search engine and his
site should come up.
Richard Whittaker on mon 16 jun 03
Re Bison tools.
Haven't used them, have to admit. But then I haven't trimmed but one or two
pots in fifteen years. But I was at NCECA standing there at Phil's booth,
Bison Studios, and a man was there raving about a Bison trimming tool he'd
used for ten years. He said, "I was a production potter and I trimmed=8A"-it
was a big number of pots-"every day", I don't trust my memory, but you'll
all be a better judge than I-"I trimmed umpteen scores (gadzillions
probably) per day and in ten years, never had to sharpen the thing!"
That's my recollection. So I got kind of interested myself and when this
guy left the booth, I asked Phil, "What are these things made out of,
anyway?"
"Tungsten carbide," he said.
"So that's some kind of really, really hard steel, hunh?" I asked.
"No," he says, "Not steel. Tungsten carbide is not a ferrous metal. It's
its own thing." or something to that effect.
Anyway, judging from this little experience I concluded that Phil's tools
belonged to another order from other merely mortal tools.
Richard Whittaker
L. P. Skeen on mon 16 jun 03
Bruce, are you talking about DooWoo tools, or maybe Bison tools?
L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Freund"
> A while back I purchased some extremely high quality trimming tools. They
some how went to "tool heaven".
Paul Herman on mon 16 jun 03
Hi Bruce,
It MUST be Bison Tools if they are the 'Best'.
Phil, are you out there?
Try: pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET and ask for Phil Poburka
I have just gotten Two new Bisons and they are the Best. The are all
rubbed and oiled and look broken in, though I haven't used them yet.
Paul Herman
Great Basin Pottery
423-725 Scott Road
Doyle, California 96109 US
potter@psln.com
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>From: Bruce Freund
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: trimming tools
>Date: Mon, Jun 16, 2003, 6:58 AM
>
> A while back I purchased some extremely high quality trimming tools. They
> some how went to "tool heaven". You know that is the place where all of the
> tools we all loose seem to go. They have to go some where.
>
> Does anyone know of the company that makes them. It is not Dolan and it is
> not Brown, both of which make great tools.
>
> bruce
>
Hank Murrow on tue 17 jun 03
Dear Richard:
Could have been anyone who has used a Bison for extended periods of =20
trimming, but it may have been me. I have trimmed over 5000 pots =20
without the need for sharpening on my small 'rounded A' Bison. Tungsten =20=
carbide is related more to silicon carbide than it is to ferrous =20
metals, or any metals. It is a kind of crystal, and fragile if one =20
drops it. Fortunately, I haven't in the four or so years I have been =20
using it. I just 'took delivery' on two more to extend my range of =20
shapes, and love them all over again. If I were giving Katie Ellis =20
advice and counsel concerning trimming tools, I would certainly =20
strongly suggest a Bison. The usual disclaimers apply, though Phil and =20=
I DO share an interest in strange airplanes.
Thought you'd like to know, Hank in Eugene
ps; Richard, if it was me at Phil's booth, why didn't you say "howdy" =20=
to a fellow red-tagged Clayarter?
On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 11:35 PM, Richard Whittaker wrote:
> Re Bison tools.
>
> Haven't used them, have to admit. But then I haven't trimmed but one =20=
> or two
> pots in fifteen years. But I was at NCECA standing there at Phil's =20
> booth,
> Bison Studios, and a man was there raving about a Bison trimming tool =20=
> he'd
> used for ten years. He said, "I was a production potter and I =20
> trimmed=8A"-it
> was a big number of pots-"every day", I don't trust my memory, but =20
> you'll
> all be a better judge than I-"I trimmed umpteen scores (gadzillions
> probably) per day and in ten years, never had to sharpen the thing!"
>
> That's my recollection. So I got kind of interested myself and when =20=
> this
> guy left the booth, I asked Phil, "What are these things made out of,
> anyway?"
> "Tungsten carbide," he said.
>
> "So that's some kind of really, really hard steel, hunh?" I asked.
>
> "No," he says, "Not steel. Tungsten carbide is not a ferrous metal. =20=
> It's
> its own thing." or something to that effect.
>
> Anyway, judging from this little experience I concluded that Phil's =20=
> tools
> belonged to another order from other merely mortal tools.
>
> Richard Whittaker
>
> =
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Brian Haviland on tue 17 jun 03
At 09:58 AM 6/16/03 -0400, you wrote:
>A while back I purchased some extremely high quality trimming tools. They
>some how went to "tool heaven". You know that is the place where all of the
>tools we all loose seem to go. They have to go some where.
>( Did you check your back pocket)
(Kemper ???) :0 !!!!!
>Does anyone know of the company that makes them. It is not Dolan and it is
>not Brown, both of which make great tools.
>
>bruce
>
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Jan Gaynor on wed 18 jun 03
Hi....have you checked out www.tools4clay.com? He
makes very high quality tools. Good Luck!
--- Brian Haviland wrote:
> At 09:58 AM 6/16/03 -0400, you wrote:
> >A while back I purchased some extremely high
> quality trimming tools. They
> >some how went to "tool heaven". You know that is
> the place where all of the
> >tools we all loose seem to go. They have to go some
> where.
>
>
>
> >( Did you check your back pocket)
>
> (Kemper ???) :0 !!!!!
>
> >Does anyone know of the company that makes them. It
> is not Dolan and it is
> >not Brown, both of which make great tools.
> >
> >bruce
> >
>
>______________________________________________________________________________
> >Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
> >
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> >
> >Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be
> reached at
> >melpots@pclink.com.
>
>
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Ababi on fri 20 jun 03
Yes they have great tools however if you look carefully at the picture you can discover
how make most of their tools your self with a very minimal cost!
Ababi Sharon
Glaze addict
Kibbutz Shoval Israel
ababisha@shoval.org.il
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http://www.israel-ceramics.org/membersGallery/personalpage.asp?MID=507
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>Hi....have you checked out www.tools4clay.com? He
>makes very high quality tools. Good Luck!
Lee Love on fri 12 mar 04
When I first started my apprenticeship, learning to throw yunomi on
a korean kickwheel, I thought it would be "Okay" if I used the throwing
stick and trimming tools I was used to. But, I quickly realized that
I was making too much work for myself. The workshop throwing stick
had a shape that was exactly the same shape as the throwing stick and
the two ends of the kana were shaped to make the exact shape of the
food. These, along with the toombo (dragonfly) measuring gage,
provided the exact measurements for the correct shape.
-- Lee In Mashiko http://mashiko.us
Chris trabka on mon 4 jun 07
I have "discovered" a new set of trimming tools.
I'm sure many of you have read about Bison tools by Phil Poburka. This past
month I've been using a Bison tool. I would like to let the list know that
my Bison tool works on everything from very soft clay (just firm enough to
trim - a bit too dry to throw) to bone dry clay (A pot that was not trimmed
correctly, waiting a couple of months for the slop bucket). The Bison tool
efficiently "cuts" (very literally) all the different clay's I've used.
Before this I always had to have an assortment of different trimming tools
for the different firmness of leather hard clay, though I've never had
anything that would work on bone dry clay.
With my other trimming tools I've been able to adjust the angle of the tool
so that it would go from trimming to buffing the clay; I could get a smooth
finish for the foot. Well the Bison tool will not give me a buffed finish
(it wants to trim any kind of clay). Instead, I've been using my yellow or
green Sherrill Mud Tools to smooth out the clay (I put the rib at about 80
degrees to the clay and use it as a scraper). The combination works much
better than any of my prior tools.
Thank you so much Phil for the new trimming tool.
Chris
mel jacobson on thu 12 nov 09
in most cases, a potter may have twenty trimming tools.
it is not...`one size fits all`.
in fact, more potters should make the tool to
fit the job. the shape of the ring foot can be
manipulated in many ways, by changing the shape
of the cutting tool.
i have bison, dolan, and use kempers a great deal.
and, i have about 50 homemade tools.
for fast heavy trimming of course the bison is best...far best.
but, kempers work just fine if the clay is `just right`.
keep that small bastard file on your bench to sharpen up tools.
even a needle tool needs a bit of `edge` from time to time.
one of my favorite cutting tools of all time is made from
a hacksaw blade. it leaves a nice pattern.
that burnzomatic torch is great for heating and bending simple
metal tools. then heat the metal to `wheat patterns` and plunge
into some used oil. heat treating, the best of all worlds.
( i have a heat treated reed spear that is hundreds of years old.
you can see how the sharp point was put into fire..hard as rock.and
then used to spear fish. they knew how to make things last.)
i cut old broom handles into four inch sections, split them,
add to a metal tool. bind with colored electricians tape.
(hint, take some old towel scrap and duct tape it to the
handle to give a soft feel. )
same for brushes. golden retriever hair from my past dogs.
i love those brushes. (gotta get a new dog, golden in color with
long hair...need some new brushes.)
making clay tools is really fun, and fills those gaps when you don't
have a clue as what to make from clay. you know, when spit comes
down your chin, and you are looking out the window for two hours.
mel
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Lee Love on thu 12 nov 09
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:49 AM, mel jacobson wrote:
> same for brushes. =3DA0golden retriever hair from my past dogs.
> i love those brushes. =3DA0(gotta get a new dog, golden in color with
> long hair...need some new brushes.)
Hamada's favorite brushes were made from the fur of a "brown"
Akita. I think their brown is what we call red. I only made a
small detail brush from my late Taiko's fur. I need to make a note
to snip some fur off of Kintaro's ruff in the middle of winter, when
his coat is the fullest.
--
Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D97tha=
t is, "T=3D
he
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
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