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pumping glaze

updated fri 24 oct 97

 

Steve Williams on sat 4 oct 97

Hi folks!

Does anyone have experience with pumping glaze from one container to
another? Specificaly, what type of pump to use. Would a pump designed
for garden fountains work provided that it was strong enough? Thanks in
advance.

Steve Williams
sawilliams@skybest.com

In frosty western NC where the fresh corn beans and tomatoes are mostly
gone but he tourists are coming.

Jonathan Kaplan on sun 5 oct 97

>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hi folks!
>
>Does anyone have experience with pumping glaze from one container to
>another? Specificaly, what type of pump to use. Would a pump designed
>for garden fountains work provided that it was strong enough? Thanks in
>advance.
>
>Steve Williams
>sawilliams@skybest.com
>
>In frosty western NC where the fresh corn beans and tomatoes are mostly
>gone but he tourists are coming.


We use a small air powered diaphragm pump manufactured by Wilden to move
most liquids around our plant with different specific gravities. We've
transferred slips from blungers to blungers, large batches of glaze from
tank to tank, etc. etc.

The little garden fountain pumps can move lots of water with an SG of 1.0
which is what they are designed for. Ceramic slurries, with SG's of 1.5 and
higher (slips at 1.75-1.80 etc) need a diaphragm pump. Rotary vane pumps
can't move the stuff either.

The down side is that they are not cheap. Our small Wildens cost about $250
each.

Jonathan


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ray carlton on sun 5 oct 97

problem would be the abrasive effect of the glaze materials on the pump
bits. i have used plant spayers with glaze and the inside bits wear out
really quick

At 10:26 04/10/97 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hi folks!
>
>Does anyone have experience with pumping glaze from one container to
>another? Specificaly, what type of pump to use. Would a pump designed
>for garden fountains work provided that it was strong enough? Thanks in
>advance.
>
>Steve Williams
>sawilliams@skybest.com
>
>In frosty western NC where the fresh corn beans and tomatoes are mostly
>gone but he tourists are coming.
>
>
raycarlt@valylink.net.au

Ray Carlton
17 Reefton Drive
McMahons Creek Victoria Australia 3799

0359668443

Marc Kiessling on sun 5 oct 97

Steve:
A company called Lily Pond , 105-351 W. Cromwell, Fresno, CA, 93711
(209) 431-5003, Fax (209) 431-6718, manufactures hi-end equipment for
the slipcasting industry (pumps, mixers, reclaimers, casting tables, etc)
Big bucks, but well made from what I have seen of them (stainless steel
shafts and pump parts). Designed to pump clay slip, but do not see why
glaze would be a problem. Phone them for a catalog.
Regards, Marc (Vancouver, B.C.)

At 10:26 AM 10/4/97 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hi folks!
>
>Does anyone have experience with pumping glaze from one container to
>another? Specificaly, what type of pump to use. Would a pump designed
>for garden fountains work provided that it was strong enough? Thanks in
>advance.
>
>Steve Williams
>sawilliams@skybest.com
>
>In frosty western NC where the fresh corn beans and tomatoes are mostly
>gone but he tourists are coming.
>
>

stevemills on tue 7 oct 97

Steve, You want a pump specificaly made to pump thick(ish) liquids, a
fountain pump won't be strong enough.
Steve

In message , Steve Williams writes
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hi folks!
>
>Does anyone have experience with pumping glaze from one container to
>another? Specificaly, what type of pump to use. Would a pump designed
>for garden fountains work provided that it was strong enough? Thanks in
>advance.
>
>Steve Williams
>sawilliams@skybest.com
>
>In frosty western NC where the fresh corn beans and tomatoes are mostly
>gone but he tourists are coming.
>

--
Steve Mills
@Bath Potters Supplies
Dorset Close
Bath
BA2 3RF
UK
Tel:(44) (0)1225 337046
Fax:(44) (0)1225 462712

Kenneth D. Westfall on wed 8 oct 97

I believe that Little Giant makes a line of coolant submersible pumps which
could pump liquids a visosity glazes. It is however doutbfull that you
will get the life longevity that you would get pumping cooling oil because
of the abrasive nature of glazes. The pumps and under a $100 dollars so it
maybe worth trying. WW Grainger carries this line of pumps and are located
in most large cities in the USA. For outside the USA call (708)9675-7600 or
fax (708) 965-7608
Kenneth D. Westfall
Pine Hill Pottery
RD#2 Box 6AA
Harrisville, WV 26362
pinehill@ruralnet.com

DON'T GET STUCK IN THE MUDPIES--K & T

Ric Swenson on wed 15 oct 97


An air operated Diaphram Pump will work well and long term, will outlast
other types of pumps because the thick...slip or glaze is pulled through
the pump by rubber diaphram system.

SANDPIPER PUMP...Warren Rupp Co. P.O. Box 1568, Manfield, OH 44901-1568
phone ( 419 ) 524 - 8388 or fax ( 419 ) 522 - 7867

a small unit for studio use might be the SB1-A or SB 25-A type 4 air
powered double diaphram pump. Cost...About $ 500. US. Real work horse of
a pump...well engineered...

and remember...
You need an air compressor to run this unit
Not a table top variety air compressor...a real air compressor...

Also have seen in-line pumps which move material (slowly) through a rubber
hose.
I will have to research that...my mind is having a "senior moment" right
now and I can't think of where I saw that in-line unit...

sorry it took me so long to get this together....I had to research for
current info...

HTH

Ric

>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Steve, You want a pump specificaly made to pump thick(ish) liquids, a
>fountain pump won't be strong enough.
>Steve
>
>In message , Steve Williams writes
>>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>>Hi folks!
>>
>>Does anyone have experience with pumping glaze from one container to
>>another? Specificaly, what type of pump to use. Would a pump designed
>>for garden fountains work provided that it was strong enough? Thanks in
>>advance.
>>
>>Steve Williams
>>sawilliams@skybest.com
>>
>>In frosty western NC where the fresh corn beans and tomatoes are mostly
>>gone but he tourists are coming.
>>
>
>--
>Steve Mills
>@Bath Potters Supplies
>Dorset Close
>Bath
>BA2 3RF
>UK
>Tel:(44) (0)1225 337046
>Fax:(44) (0)1225 462712


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