Fred and Claudia Hayward on fri 4 jul 97
We are looking for a used pugmill, preferably a 3" Venco
(de-airing). If you have one you would like to sell or know of
anyone who has one please send us an e-mail. We would prefer
someone in the west of Canada or the US so we could go pick it up,
but we are open to suggestions from anywhere!
Thanks!
Claudia Hayward
Maple Ridge, B.C.
Bill Williams on wed 1 sep 99
-------------------
I have a used Bluebird pug mill that I am thinking about selling. I have no
idea how old it is, but it is in good working condition. How do I find out =
how
much it's worth? Connie
Joanne Van Bezooyen on thu 2 sep 99
Usually the price is set at 1/10th the value of a comparable new one. By the
way....I'm looking to buy a used pugmill!
:~)
Joanne in Tucson
ps...Where are you located?
pps. Is it deairing?
Bill Williams wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> -------------------
> I have a used Bluebird pug mill that I am thinking about selling. I have no
> idea how old it is, but it is in good working condition. How do I find out ho
> much it's worth? Connie
Liz&Buster Miller on fri 3 sep 99
Live in Tennesse, pugmill has had little or less manhours, it's worth the
price if your just mixing clay.
----- Original Message -----
From: Joanne Van Bezooyen
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: pug mill
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Usually the price is set at 1/10th the value of a comparable new one. By
the
> way....I'm looking to buy a used pugmill!
>
> :~)
> Joanne in Tucson
> ps...Where are you located?
> pps. Is it deairing?
>
> Bill Williams wrote:
>
> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > -------------------
> > I have a used Bluebird pug mill that I am thinking about selling. I
have no
> > idea how old it is, but it is in good working condition. How do I find
out ho
> > much it's worth? Connie
>
russell knop on wed 8 dec 99
hello first time clayart contact. i am looking for a pugmill and maybe a
slab roller. i understand i may also get feedback on building a castable
kiln.
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Bonita Cohn on fri 14 jan 00
At Ruby's Clay Studio here in San Francisco, we use a Venco that we got used
for $3000 many moons ago. It is a strong machine. The classes and community
rental studio-mates generate an incredible amount of stuff. I'd prefer a
Soldner mixer, but we could not get something that needed venting (like dry
powder additions). We dry the slurry out on plaster till it holds a shape
(keeps the ageing), and then put it thru. Then we Bag it in 13# logs. Best
clay in town (1/2 Soldate/ 1/2 B-Mix).
Bonita Cohn, still in the mood to talk clay, after a good night of
teaching....
http://www.cpmg.com/anagama
http://www.silverhawk.com/ex99/cohn
Shellie Mathews on wed 5 apr 06
hello, i looking for a used pug mill. any type considered. thanks, shellie
mathews
John Rodgers on sat 13 may 06
I have needed a mill for a while and settled on a Walker mill for my
purposes. After searching far and wide for several months, I found one a
few hours away and bought it.
The Walker mill is huge! Came on a steel stand with rollers, making it
easy to move around in my shop - incidentally everything in my shop is
on wheels except my potters wheel. The screw is driven through a
transmission by a 3/4 hp motor mounted at a 90 degree angle to the
shaft. On this machine the shaft, blades, and hopper are all stainless,
and all new bearings were installed. So there had been considerable work
done on it to keep it up.
The Walker mill is clearly not something to mess around with. The hopper
is very large, the shaft blades are exposed, and it has no screen in it
for hand protection. If one did something stupid one could lose a hand
and/or fingers in a heartbeat. I understand clearly why the company got
shut down through a lawsuit. Even so, the machine is great for my purposes.
The Walker mill is not a vacuum type, which makes it less desirable than
some of the newer machines, but then this one was far less than the
prices of even the cheapest new machines on the market. But the price
was right and lack of de-airing is not a problem for me. Another
feature I liked about it was that parts can be bought from Grainger.
A great tool for the shop. Already saving my wrists, not having to wedge
so hard.
Regards,
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
John Rodgers on sun 14 may 06
My observation of the Walker pug mill is that it is a good machine, but
with the advent of newer pug mills with improved safety features, it has
no place in a teaching environment with sometimes over-eager students.
It is an accident waiting to happen. IMHO, leave the Walker to the
Pros. Get rid of it in favor of the newer, safer machines. Pug mills are
a long term capital equipment investment, and if it is for a school, it
should definitely be viewed that way. It is no place to chince in the
budget for the ceramics program. The price of a newer pug mill with all
the new safety features is small potatoes compared to the money a
lawsuit would cost.
As far as prices for Walkers, in my search I never found one for less
that $600, and unless one was able to go get it and move it oneself, the
freight for the thing was always around $300-$400. Depending on the
configuration of the stand, the mill weighs in at 250-350 lbs. Pretty
significant given today's fuel surcharges being added onto freight bills.
Regards,
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
John Rodgers wrote:
> I have needed a mill for a while and settled on a Walker mill for my
> purposes. After searching far and wide for several months, I found one a
> few hours away and bought it.
>
> The Walker mill is huge! Came on a steel stand with rollers, making it
> easy to move around in my shop - incidentally everything in my shop is
> on wheels except my potters wheel. The screw is driven through a
> transmission by a 3/4 hp motor mounted at a 90 degree angle to the
> shaft. On this machine the shaft, blades, and hopper are all stainless,
> and all new bearings were installed. So there had been considerable work
> done on it to keep it up.
>
> The Walker mill is clearly not something to mess around with. The hopper
> is very large, the shaft blades are exposed, and it has no screen in it
> for hand protection. If one did something stupid one could lose a hand
> and/or fingers in a heartbeat. I understand clearly why the company got
> shut down through a lawsuit. Even so, the machine is great for my
> purposes.
>
> The Walker mill is not a vacuum type, which makes it less desirable than
> some of the newer machines, but then this one was far less than the
> prices of even the cheapest new machines on the market. But the price
> was right and lack of de-airing is not a problem for me. Another
> feature I liked about it was that parts can be bought from Grainger.
>
> A great tool for the shop. Already saving my wrists, not having to wedge
> so hard.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Rodgers
> Chelsea, AL
>
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Linda Mccaleb on mon 31 aug 09
=3DA0 Dear ClayFolk,=3D0A=3DA0 I am looking for a used pug mill for stonewa=
re and=3D
cone 6 porcelain, preferably used North of or in the Dallas Texas aria. I =
=3D
will be going to FT Worth Texas on Tuesday. I'm from 30 min South of the Ok=
=3D
lahoma border. Any one in that area have a used one that is coated or is st=
=3D
ainless steel for sale?=3D0A=3DA0 Thanks,=3D0A=3DA0 Linda=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A
John Rodgers on tue 10 aug 10
I've got an old Walker. It's old, non-vacuum, but it's a real work
horse. But I never ever let anyone touch that thing but me. People do
stupid things.
John
John Rodgers
Clayartist and Moldmaker
88'GL VW Bus Driver
Chelsea, AL
Http://www.moldhaus.com
On 8/10/2010 5:01 PM, P Can wrote:
> I am going to buy a pug mill for my personal studio use. I have searched
> the archives but cannot find any recent posts with recommendations. Anyo=
ne
> in love with theirs? I want a de-airing one of course.
>
> Phyllis Canupp
> Virginia Beach, VA
>
>
P Can on tue 10 aug 10
I am going to buy a pug mill for my personal studio use. I have searched
the archives but cannot find any recent posts with recommendations. Anyone
in love with theirs? I want a de-airing one of course.
Phyllis Canupp
Virginia Beach, VA
Larry Kruzan on tue 10 aug 10
Peter Pugger unless you are using porcelain. I love mine - Antoinette came
dome last weekend and ran around 3000 lbs of stoneware mix through it. Mine=
s
a VPM-60. I think it is as small as I could get by with but I know folks wh=
o
use a VPM-9 and are happy.
Best Wishes,
Larry Kruzan
Lost Creek Pottery
www.lostcreekpottery.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of P Can
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:02 PM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: pug mill
I am going to buy a pug mill for my personal studio use. I have searched
the archives but cannot find any recent posts with recommendations. Anyone
in love with theirs? I want a de-airing one of course.
Phyllis Canupp
Virginia Beach, VA
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Kris Bliss on tue 10 aug 10
PETER PUGGER POWER WEDGER !!!
yay
had mine for more that 10 years, no problems.
small capacity about 25 30 lbs.
but perfect for a small studio
my 2 cents....
kris
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of P Can
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:02 PM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: pug mill
I am going to buy a pug mill for my personal studio use. I have searched
the archives but cannot find any recent posts with recommendations. Anyone
in love with theirs? I want a de-airing one of course.
Phyllis Canupp
Virginia Beach, VA
Gay Judson on sat 28 aug 10
I have a Peter Pugger pug mill--which I am so grateful to have. BUT how =
=3D
do you deal with using more than one clay? I have been using one ^ 6 =3D
clay for several years. This last year I've begun working with a =3D
low-fire, red earthenware clay. I thought I was going to do just a bit =3D
of work with the low fire but I've been hooked and now I have piles of =3D
trimmings and trashed pots of the low-fire clay. So I want to run it =3D
through the pug mill--but I have to clean out the ^6 clay. I did it but =
=3D
it took hours--like 8--to clean it out. All the while I was thinking =3D
about having to repeat the job when I get back into my ^6 clay. There =3D
must be an easier solution--besides having 2 pug mills. What do you do? =
=3D
Does everyone with pug mills limit themselves to one clay or have one =3D
pug per clay?
Gay Judson=3D
Larry Kruzan on sat 28 aug 10
Hi Gay,
As a follow up, a friend told me that just before she starts tearing the
mixer down, she runs a very wet batch of clay through it. She then takes th=
e
empty mixer apart at once. She says that this "loose" sloppy batch, makes
pulling the nozzle off much easier.
Best,
Larry
-----Original Message-----
From: Gay Judson [mailto:gjjudson@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 6:14 PM
To: Larry Kruzan
Subject: Re: pug mill
Thanks, Larry. I have the VPM-20. I had to have my husband help pull the
nozzle--and it was a challenge for him! I made a mistake. The only other
time that I cleaned it I found I could remove the bolts and then turn on th=
e
pug function and it pushed the nozzle off. I tried to pug the clay out but
none came out. When I took off the bolts and ran the pug function it just
spun the nozzle around in place--there was too much clay left in the
machine--but it had become hard a the nozzle end and so did not pug. It
turned out that it was FULL once I got the nozzle off. So then I was
digging LOTS of clay out by hand. Once I got that out I did let it dry
overnight and then it was pretty easy to 'fleck' it off. Maybe it will be
easier next time. I have received good suggestions--similar to yours--so I
may be better prepared. John Goode wrote that he did not think it would
take 2 days but no way he could do it in 30 minutes! I felt confirmed by
that!
Thanks for your note.
Gay Judson
On Aug 28, 2010, at 5:33 PM, Larry Kruzan wrote:
> Hi Gay,
>
> I keep a hundred pounds of "in-between" clay around to make the change
over
> from white to red clays. I never make the change until I have several
> hundred pounds to recycle. With the VPM-60 I own, making the change can b=
e
> done with just a couple loads - and I use the mixed clay (think of it as =
a
> third body) to make sculptural items that clay color is less important -
> Cardholders, napkin holders, tile and such.
>
> You didn't say which model PP you have. Even tearing them all the way dow=
n
> should not take more than a couple hours. Is there a particular part that
is
> causing you a problem?
>
> As a suggestion - the last time I decided that I needed to tear it down
> completely to really "clean" it, I just left it open for a couple days
after
> pugging everything out that I could. In a couple days all the scraps were
> dry or very stiff - turning the machine on for a minute loosened
everything
> up to the point that disassembly was very easy, basic cleanup was dumping
> the clay out as I took it apart. Then I tackled the rest of really
stuck-on
> stuff with a hose and green scratchy pad. A little more rubbery clay was
> still in the nozzle but most was dry.
>
> This is not the way I do it every time - I prefer to just use the mixed
> stuff until I get back to the color I want.
>
> Best wishes my friend,
> Larry Kruzan
> Lost Creek Pottery
> www.lostcreekpottery.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Gay Judson
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 1:06 PM
> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: pug mill
>
> I have a Peter Pugger pug mill--which I am so grateful to have. BUT how
do
> you deal with using more than one clay? I have been using one ^ 6 clay
for
> several years. This last year I've begun working with a low-fire, red
> earthenware clay. I thought I was going to do just a bit of work with th=
e
> low fire but I've been hooked and now I have piles of trimmings and
trashed
> pots of the low-fire clay. So I want to run it through the pug mill--but
I
> have to clean out the ^6 clay. I did it but it took hours--like 8--to
clean
> it out. All the while I was thinking about having to repeat the job when
I
> get back into my ^6 clay. There must be an easier solution--besides
having
> 2 pug mills. What do you do? Does everyone with pug mills limit
themselves
> to one clay or have one pug per clay?
> Gay Judson=3D
>
>
>
>
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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Michael Wendt on sat 28 aug 10
Gay,
If you know someone who welds,
I suggest that you build castered carts for each of the
heavy
components to allow easier cleaning.
Going from white to red, I would merely disassemble ,
clean in a cursory manner and reassemble, then mix red clay.
Going from red to white I would take the pug mill apart
at the end of the work day.
Clean off the largest chunks of clay.
Set a fan to blow on the mill.
Let it dry over night.
The dried clay literally drops off.
I would then roll the parts outside and hose them off..
see:
http://www.wendtpottery.com/pugmill_cleaning_procedure.htm
Once washed, I would use white towels to wipe down the metal
mixing surfaces to remove the traces of red. The white clay
comes
out pure and streak free this way and the carts make the
cleaning fast and easy.
Regards,
Michael Wendt
Gay wrote:
I have a Peter Pugger pug mill--which I am so grateful to
have. BUT how do you deal with using more than one clay? I
have been using one ^ 6 clay for several years. This last
year I've begun working with a low-fire, red earthenware
clay. I thought I was going to do just a bit of work with
the low fire but I've been hooked and now I have piles of
trimmings and trashed pots of the low-fire clay. So I want
to run it through the pug mill--but I have to clean out the
^6 clay. I did it but it took hours--like 8--to clean it
out. All the while I was thinking about having to repeat
the job when I get back into my ^6 clay. There must be an
easier solution--besides having 2 pug mills. What do you
do? Does everyone with pug mills limit themselves to one
clay or have one pug per clay?
Gay Judson=3D
Ellen Currans on sat 28 aug 10
Dear Gay,
I have had a Venco pug mill since l981 or so. When we bought
it we thought we would be willing to share with other potters from
time to time, but found out the cleaning out part is a big nuisance!
I don't think there is any easy solution if you have fallen in love
with a new clay, unless your split your clay year in to sections and
work with one at a time for months.
I only work with one claybody, a cone 10 stoneware, which we make
in an old Navy dough mixer. I found that we use the pugmill differently
than we expected to. We pug all the newly made clay and store it in
plastic bags, but then repug what I am going to use every couple days, so
that what I am throwing or slabbing is always just the right consistency
with no harder or soft spots.
Using one clay makes life as a potter simpler. No cross contamination
on tools and work tables; lots of time to learn the clay and what it will
do and what glazes will work. Also, consistency of product if you want
to sell to the same customers over the years. =3D20
I do look fondly at a stack of porcelain given me from time to time and
would like to play around with it, but not badly enough to do the wedging
and reclaiming necessary. Maybe when I am really old!
Ellen Currans
Dundee, Oregon
-----Original Message-----
From: Gay Judson
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Sat, Aug 28, 2010 11:06 am
Subject: pug mill
I have a Peter Pugger pug mill--which I am so grateful to have. BUT how=3D
do you=3D20
deal with using more than one clay? I have been using one ^ 6 clay for se=
=3D
veral=3D20
years. This last year I've begun working with a low-fire, red earthenware=
=3D
clay. =3D20
I thought I was going to do just a bit of work with the low fire but I've=
=3D
been=3D20
hooked and now I have piles of trimmings and trashed pots of the low-fire=
=3D
clay. =3D20
So I want to run it through the pug mill--but I have to clean out the ^6=3D
clay. =3D20
I did it but it took hours--like 8--to clean it out. All the while I was=
=3D
=3D20
thinking about having to repeat the job when I get back into my ^6 clay.=3D
There=3D20
must be an easier solution--besides having 2 pug mills. What do you do?=3D
Does=3D20
everyone with pug mills limit themselves to one clay or have one pug per=3D
clay?
Gay Judson=3D3D
=3D20
bill geisinger on sat 28 aug 10
Empty the mill normally, then remove the end nozzle, (four bolts), remove
the next reducer section, (four bolts) clean them by hand (10 minutes total=
)
let everything in exposed machine dry over night or till bone dry (gotta be
bone dry), blast it all with a hose spray nozzle, (10 minutes), reassemble
and pug new clay about a 30 minute job total.
bill in sebastopol
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Gay Judson wrote:
> I have a Peter Pugger pug mill--which I am so grateful to have. BUT how =
do
> you deal with using more than one clay? I have been using one ^ 6 clay f=
or
> several years. This last year I've begun working with a low-fire, red
> earthenware clay. I thought I was going to do just a bit of work with th=
e
> low fire but I've been hooked and now I have piles of trimmings and trash=
ed
> pots of the low-fire clay. So I want to run it through the pug mill--but=
I
> have to clean out the ^6 clay. I did it but it took hours--like 8--to cl=
ean
> it out. All the while I was thinking about having to repeat the job when=
I
> get back into my ^6 clay. There must be an easier solution--besides havi=
ng
> 2 pug mills. What do you do? Does everyone with pug mills limit themsel=
ves
> to one clay or have one pug per clay?
> Gay Judson
John Post on sat 28 aug 10
> Empty the mill normally, then remove the end nozzle, (four bolts),
> remove
> the next reducer section, (four bolts) clean them by hand (10
> minutes total)
> let everything in exposed machine dry over night or till bone dry
> (gotta be
> bone dry), blast it all with a hose spray nozzle, (10 minutes),
> reassemble
> and pug new clay about a 30 minute job total.
>
> bill in sebastopol
I added some wheels to the bottom of my Walker pug mill so that I can
wheel outdoors. First I remove all the big chunks of moist clay by
hand. Then I wheel it out into the sun to help speed up the drying
process of any clay left in the machine. When the clay is bone dry, I
blast it all out with a hose. It doesn't take 8 hours, but it's still
not any fun.
A lot of the stuff artists do is just labor intensive and there's no
way around it. The quote I like to keep in mind is "It's harder to
think about doing the work, than it is to just do the work."
John Post
Sterling Heights, Michigan
http://www.johnpost.us
>
Gay Judson on sat 28 aug 10
Thanks, Ellen. That is pretty much what I thought. I guess I was just =3D
dreaming that there might be an easy way to change back and forth! =3D
Apparently not! I do very much admire your work and your contributions =3D
to Clayart. Thanks for responding to my query.=3D20
Gay
On Aug 28, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Ellen Currans wrote:
> Dear Gay,
>=3D20
> I have had a Venco pug mill since l981 or so. When we bought
> it we thought we would be willing to share with other potters from
> time to time, but found out the cleaning out part is a big nuisance!
> I don't think there is any easy solution if you have fallen in love
> with a new clay, unless your split your clay year in to sections and
> work with one at a time for months.
>=3D20
> I only work with one claybody, a cone 10 stoneware, which we make
> in an old Navy dough mixer. I found that we use the pugmill =3D
differently
> than we expected to. We pug all the newly made clay and store it in
> plastic bags, but then repug what I am going to use every couple days, =
=3D
so
> that what I am throwing or slabbing is always just the right =3D
consistency
> with no harder or soft spots.
>=3D20
> Using one clay makes life as a potter simpler. No cross contamination
> on tools and work tables; lots of time to learn the clay and what it =3D
will
> do and what glazes will work. Also, consistency of product if you =3D
want
> to sell to the same customers over the years. =3D20
>=3D20
> I do look fondly at a stack of porcelain given me from time to time =3D
and
> would like to play around with it, but not badly enough to do the =3D
wedging
> and reclaiming necessary. Maybe when I am really old!
>=3D20
> Ellen Currans
> Dundee, Oregon
>=3D20
>=3D20
>=3D20
>=3D20
>=3D20
>=3D20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gay Judson
> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Sent: Sat, Aug 28, 2010 11:06 am
> Subject: pug mill
>=3D20
> I have a Peter Pugger pug mill--which I am so grateful to have. BUT =3D
how do you=3D20
> deal with using more than one clay? I have been using one ^ 6 clay =3D
for several=3D20
> years. This last year I've begun working with a low-fire, red =3D
earthenware clay. =3D20
> I thought I was going to do just a bit of work with the low fire but =3D
I've been=3D20
> hooked and now I have piles of trimmings and trashed pots of the =3D
low-fire clay. =3D20
> So I want to run it through the pug mill--but I have to clean out the =3D
^6 clay. =3D20
> I did it but it took hours--like 8--to clean it out. All the while I =3D
was=3D20
> thinking about having to repeat the job when I get back into my ^6 =3D
clay. There=3D20
> must be an easier solution--besides having 2 pug mills. What do you =3D
do? Does=3D20
> everyone with pug mills limit themselves to one clay or have one pug =3D
per clay?
> Gay Judson=3D3D
Lee Love on sat 28 aug 10
I don't put my earthenware in the pugmill. I keep it separate, moist
and in the bag.
--
=3DA0Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3D93Observe the wonders as they occur around you. Don't claim them. Feel
the artistry moving through and be silent.=3D94 --Rumi
Bonnie Hellman on sat 28 aug 10
I used only ^6 white clays so I don't clean the Peter Pugger.
I have cleaned it and it didn't take 8 hours. I removed the nozzle and put
it in water to clean. I scraped out the hopper as best I could and just use=
d
the "blended" clay for a while. I would think you could put wet towels next
to the clay the lines the hopper container to make that clay easier to
remove.
Or you just decide to reclaim by hand one of your 2 clays.
Bonnie
Bonnie Hellman
Ouray, CO. USA
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From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Gay Judson
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 12:06 PM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: pug mill
I have a Peter Pugger pug mill--which I am so grateful to have. BUT how do
you deal with using more than one clay? I have been using one ^ 6 clay for
several years. This last year I've begun working with a low-fire, red
earthenware clay. I thought I was going to do just a bit of work with the
low fire but I've been hooked and now I have piles of trimmings and trashed
pots of the low-fire clay. So I want to run it through the pug mill--but I
have to clean out the ^6 clay. I did it but it took hours--like 8--to clea=
n
it out. All the while I was thinking about having to repeat the job when I
get back into my ^6 clay. There must be an easier solution--besides having
2 pug mills. What do you do? Does everyone with pug mills limit themselve=
s
to one clay or have one pug per clay?
Gay Judson=3D
Ken on wed 1 sep 10
> I have a Peter Pugger (VP-20) that I am very happy with. However, I do =
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have one problem: when I mix water with dry clay, the resulting wet clay =
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has tendency to wrap around the blades (auger) of the pug mill. I think =3D
PP refers to this as "spinners" and they recommend that additional dry =3D
clay be added to the hopper. I have found that their solution doesn't =3D
work all that well. Has anyone found a solution to this problem.
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> Ken Guin
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Birgit Wright on thu 2 sep 10
Hi Ken=3D3B=3D20
I have a VPm 9=3D2C I find it works better with a few balls of stiff but=
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ot dry clay. jam one in=3D2C a quick turn=3D2C jam another=3D2C do a few t=
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=3D2C tends to dislodge the spin.=3D20
Good luck=3D2C Cheers=3D2C Birgit Wright
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> Date: Wed=3D2C 1 Sep 2010 10:41:32 -0400
> From: kenguin@GMAIL.COM
> Subject: Pug Mill
> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
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> > I have a Peter Pugger (VP-20) that I am very happy with. However=3D2C I=
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o have one problem: when I mix water with dry clay=3D2C the resulting wet c=
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y has tendency to wrap around the blades (auger) of the pug mill. I think P=
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P refers to this as "spinners" and they recommend that additional dry clay =
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be added to the hopper. I have found that their solution doesn't work all t=
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hat well. Has anyone found a solution to this problem.
> >=3D20
> > Ken Guin
> >=3D20
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Larry Kruzan on thu 2 sep 10
Hi Ken, wish I had some magic solution for this common problem but you
already have the answer. I keep a bucket of powdered clay, and a bucket of
smooth Grog beside the VPM-60.
You didn't say how long you've owned the VPM-20, but as time passes you wil=
l
get a feel for just how much slop you can add before things get overly
sloppy. I tend to mix on the dry side, then add water slowly to taste. Afte=
r
3 years with this machine I can tell a lot about the texture of the clay
from the sound of the machine working.
A few weeks ago a friend and her husband came by and ran 3000??? Lbs throug=
h
it over a day and half. Once I got out of their way they really made the PP
earn its pay. LOL What a machine!!!!
Larry Kruzan
Lost Creek Pottery
www.lostcreekpottery.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:42 AM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Pug Mill
> I have a Peter Pugger (VP-20) that I am very happy with. However, I do
have one problem: when I mix water with dry clay, the resulting wet clay ha=
s
tendency to wrap around the blades (auger) of the pug mill. I think PP
refers to this as "spinners" and they recommend that additional dry clay be
added to the hopper. I have found that their solution doesn't work all that
well. Has anyone found a solution to this problem.
>
> Ken Guin
>
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