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mo' better boron

updated tue 30 sep 97

 

Craig Martell on wed 10 sep 97

Hello Boron Advocates:

There is a new boron product on the market called Cadycal 100. No, I'm not
kidding. They keep it in the cooler, right next to the Cherry Garcia.

I read about it in the latest newsletter from Georgie's Ceramic and Clay Co.
in Portland, Or. Georgies suggests using Cadycal as a substitute for
Gerstley Borate and they say it is "user friendly". They don't say who is
mining and processing the stuff, but it is a California product and it is
processed from mining leach solution. They say it is processed and
maintained within narrow limits and does not have any reaction problems with
water. I guess this means that solubles are absent or present in a very low
percentage.

They can be reached at 1-800-999-2529 and their website is www.georgies.com.
Ask to talk to Ritchie Bellinger, or Christie Runyan if you call them, as
they are the folks who have a good handle on raw materials. The chemical
analysis is:

Cadycal 100-percentage analysis

B2O3 >48.0%
Cl <0.1
SO3 <0.1
As2O3 not detectable
SiO2 <0.1
Fe2O3 <0.08
CaO 28.0
NaO <0.1
Al2O3 <0.2
K2O <0.03
MgO <0.3
SrO <0.04
moisture <2.0

Ok. haul out yer gram scales!! Craig Martell-Oregon

Bill Aycock on sat 13 sep 97

Did my copy get through without a line?- I dont add up to near 100 on the
analysis I got. In fact- there seems to be about 22% lost. whats
missing-?- most of the oxides I would expect are there, in small amounts
(except for boron and calcium, which are larger), so it doesn't look like
an oversight.

At 12:50 PM 9/10/97 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hello Boron Advocates:
>
>There is a new boron product on the market called Cadycal 100.
>
SNIP_SNIP
>Cadycal 100-percentage analysis
>
>B2O3 >48.0%
>Cl <0.1
>SO3 <0.1
>As2O3 not detectable
>SiO2 <0.1
>Fe2O3 <0.08
>CaO 28.0
>NaO <0.1
>Al2O3 <0.2
>K2O <0.03
>MgO <0.3
>SrO <0.04
>moisture <2.0
>
>Ok. haul out yer gram scales!! Craig Martell-Oregon
>
Bill- puzzled on Persimmon Hill
Bill Aycock --- Persimmon Hill --- Woodville, Alabama, US 35776
--- (in the N.E. corner of the State) ---
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Craig Martell on sun 14 sep 97

Bill Aycock wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Did my copy get through without a line?- I dont add up to near 100 on the
>analysis I got. In fact- there seems to be about 22% lost. whats
>missing-?- most of the oxides I would expect are there, in small amounts
>(except for boron and calcium, which are larger), so it doesn't look like
>an oversight.

Hey Bill:

You're right of course. My addition yields 79.95%, so about 20% is missing.
There are a lot of < and > symbols in the analysis which leads one to
contemplate variable amounts of stuff and maybe they are granting themselves
a huge margin for that. However, that seems like a LOT to me. I called
Georgies today and asked about the analysis and who was mining and
processing Cadycal but all the folks who know the answers were either home
for the weekend or they were at 7-11 for coffee and Sinkers(ie doughnuts).
I'll try again, unless someone else would like to do it. Their ph is:
1-800-999-clay and their website is: www.georgies.com.

Y'know, I sometimes wonder if there are very many folks that are really
interested in this stuff anyway. By the way, my two Berry Rust samples are
still fine after being mixed for almost 2 months. The fritted version
without the Gerstley Borate exhibits a bit of thixotrophy but once you give
it a good stir, it's fine. It has more kaolin than the receipe with GB
which would account for more thixotrophy.

Regards, Craig Martell-Oregon

Ron Roy on mon 15 sep 97

Hi Craig,

This is going to be short and crisp cause I'm way behind - wheres the LOI?

Track it down Craig - I need the fax # of the producer - I need to know how
stable it's going to be.

Wipe that blood off your nose!




>You're right of course. My addition yields 79.95%, so about 20% is missing.
>There are a lot of < and > symbols in the analysis which leads one to
>contemplate variable amounts of stuff and maybe they are granting themselves
>a huge margin for that. However, that seems like a LOT to me. I called
>Georgies today and asked about the analysis and who was mining and
>processing Cadycal but all the folks who know the answers were either home
>for the weekend or they were at 7-11 for coffee and Sinkers(ie doughnuts).
>I'll try again, unless someone else would like to do it. Their ph is:
>1-800-999-clay and their website is: www.georgies.com.
>
>Y'know, I sometimes wonder if there are very many folks that are really
>interested in this stuff anyway. By the way, my two Berry Rust samples are
>still fine after being mixed for almost 2 months. The fritted version
>without the Gerstley Borate exhibits a bit of thixotrophy but once you give
>it a good stir, it's fine. It has more kaolin than the receipe with GB
>which would account for more thixotrophy.
>
>Regards, Craig Martell-Oregon

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