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RB & LA Klopper on sun 7 apr 96

Hi Bernadette,

Some time ago I was in USA I can't remember the price of the grip but I know
it is almost $100.00 difference to what I paid in Perth. So if you are
going there I'd suggest that you get one. I couldn't live without it.

Lorraine



Russell and Lorraine Klopper Phone 619-3396067
38 Allen Street Fax 619-3519443
East Fremantle
Western Australia E-Mail klopper@iinet.net.au

(See our Total Flower Export web page at www.iinet.net.au/~total)

Timothy N. Cusack on fri 26 jul 96

Marilyn, I thought it was me and that I was losing if after all these years. My
pots are off center too with my (close to 10 year) Giffin. I've checked
everything from balance of my wheel to the bottom plate etc. I just figured I
had started throwing wierdly. . Maybe it just has a burnout factor. It's a
great time saving tool and I'd hate to have to purchase another as the price
has really gone up since I bought mine. I'll be interested in what other folks'
responses are.
Mary in KC, KS

June Perry on sat 27 jul 96

My Giffin Grip is also off center and it is about ten years old. I won it in
a raffle at a workshop when I lived in L.A. I have been able to adjust it by
removing the bottom and playing around with the screws. It is a pain in the
butt and usually takes several tries to get it right. And I am finding that
even when I realign it it is not holding long.
I hope someone else out there has found a longer lasting and easier solution.

Lately I've been avoiding using it and resorting to old methods!

Regards,
June Perry
EMail: Gurushakti@aol.com

p4337@connect.ab.ca on sat 27 jul 96

Hi All...I TOO have been having the wobbling problem with my Griffin Grip.
I have checked my wheels and wheel heads and all are on
balance/centered/even on the floor. My grip is also about 10-12 yrs old and
it seems to be the top plate that is warped or slightly off center. I
thought I was throwing on center till I start trimming...mostly on the
grip...and nothing is centered.
I sure hate to spend the big money for a new and a VERY useful tool as the
price was pretty high when I got it. I KNOW nothing lasts forever but it
should...;>}}}}
Is it possible to get a new top plate for the grip rather than having to
get a whole new set.? If anyone knows please forward some ideas (to the
list) on how to save the old grip.
And here I thought I was losing my 'grip' on the clay. ;>}}}

Please note my new e-mail ....Have a wonderful weekend everyone. As Always
in Clay Peggy



Peggy Heer/Heer Pottery p4337@connect.ab.ca
Edmonton, AB Canada
http://www.ffa.ucalgary.ca/artists/pheer/

Dave Murphy on sat 27 jul 96


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From: Timothy N. Cusack[SMTP:102765.2124@CompuServe.COM]
Sent: July 26, 1996 5:38 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list CLAYART
Subject: Giffin Grip

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Marilyn, I thought it was me and that I was losing if after all these years. My
pots are off center too with my (close to 10 year) Giffin. I've checked
everything from balance of my wheel to the bottom plate etc. I just figured I
had started throwing wierdly. . Maybe it just has a burnout factor. It's a
great time saving tool and I'd hate to have to purchase another as the price
has really gone up since I bought mine. I'll be interested in what other folks'
responses are.
Mary in KC, KS

I too have an old (10 years) Giffin grip. I discovered that the little holes
where you put the steel rods in were built up with clay inside. It was just
enough to throw everything off. Also the little pads do become worn and
another pair solved my problems. Mine however were not free. What a great
device a little maintenance is fair.

Barbara

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SolvejgMa@aol.com on sat 27 jul 96

Hi gang. My G-grip has been off kilter for a couple of years too. Thought
it was me till I started using a grabber pad for my bowls and plates. I
still have to use the grip for tall items, but everything else turns better
on the grabber pad. Sorry, I never quite got the hang of trimming with chunks
of clay holding my pots in place.


Kat in Salem, back from an all-nighter at the emergency vet's... some
%&*$@! let their dog roam last night and he squeezed into our courtyard and
tore up my 14-year old cat. Still waiting on the outcome.

Vince Pitelka on tue 30 jul 96

Thanks to Jonathan for his convincing testimonial to the Giffin Grip. I
agree, and I have had mine for thirteen years. I had to replace the O-ring
last year, and someone lost one of the jaws so I ordered another set, but it
later turned up in the recycle, fortunately before it went into the pugmill.
And Jonathan, when you mentioned your favorite potters invention since the
wheel, why didn't you just go ahead and specify "the Soldner mixer" rather
than just "motorized mixer?" I say that because there are other motorized
mixers on the market which are nothing to celebrate, and the Soldner mixer
is certainly something to celebrate. I wish we had one. Whoever originally
ordered the equipment for our facility really blew it on the claymixers.
They are ultra heavy-duty hopper-type mixers, so they will never break, but
there are slow and dangerous and a far cry from a Soldner.


- Vince
Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@dekalb.net
Phone - home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801
Appalachian Center for Crafts, Smithville TN 37166

SLPBM@cc.usu.edu on tue 30 jul 96



About those Soldner mixers,

When you consider the simple design and rugged durability, I wonder
why he never made an even bigger model. Something which could hold
on the order of 500 pounds. Maybe that's just too much to ask?
Just a thought.

Alex Solla in Utah

Paul Jadick on tue 11 nov 97

Monica & all,
I agree with David. You should learn without the more sophisticated tools
first. Then, when you see what you will be producing and how much, you
can decide. By the way, it works best on pots that are semetrical. I have
been making pots for over twenty years and purchased my Grip a few years
ago. I like it most of all because it eliminates the use of chucks which I
HATE. It can't be beat for trimming vases, ,all sizes, anything with a
narrow neck, teapots and tall pots and pitchers. The only thing I don't
like (this may sound silly) is that it rises above your splash pan and
sends trimmings flying all over! Maybe someone has a solution for this.
For trimming plates and cassaroles I love the Grabber Bat from Axner.
These forms are usually too wide for the Grip anyway. Just my opinion,
hope it helps.

Georgia Tenore @
pjadick@worldnet.att.net

Rick Brady on wed 12 nov 97

Try this with your Giffin Grip to control your trimmings. I have a
Pacifica Wheel which uses a two piece splash pan. I found a .015 inch
(0.38mm) thick piece of plastic and trimmed it to fit in the back half
of my splash pan. It fits nicely where the two haves of the splash pan
overlap. The piece of plastic is about 8 inches high (but could be
lower) and catches about 80% of the trimmings which fly around and over
of the splash pan. Maybe you could try to cut up some card board or
poster board and make a template which works with your wheel. If you
are near a TAP Plastics store they will have the plastic and cut it to
any size you need. Good Luck!

> ----------
> From: Paul Jadick[SMTP:pjadick@worldnet.att.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 1997 4:45 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list CLAYART
> Subject: Giffin Grip
>
> ----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
> Monica & all,
> I agree with David. You should learn without the more sophisticated
> tools
> first. Then, when you see what you will be producing and how much,
> you
> can decide. By the way, it works best on pots that are semetrical. I
> have
> been making pots for over twenty years and purchased my Grip a few
> years
> ago. I like it most of all because it eliminates the use of chucks
> which I
> HATE. It can't be beat for trimming vases, ,all sizes, anything with
> a
> narrow neck, teapots and tall pots and pitchers. The only thing I
> don't
> like (this may sound silly) is that it rises above your splash pan and
> sends trimmings flying all over! Maybe someone has a solution for
> this.
> For trimming plates and cassaroles I love the Grabber Bat from Axner.
> These forms are usually too wide for the Grip anyway. Just my
> opinion,
> hope it helps.
>
> Georgia Tenore @
> pjadick@worldnet.att.net
>

Marjory R. Kline on thu 13 nov 97

Hi Georgia,

I know what you mean about clay flying all over the studio. I'm sure
everyone who uses the Grip has his/her own way of solving this problem.
This is what I did: I found a cardboard box (approximately 20" x 23", 10"
high) and cut a hole in middle of the bottom of it. When I trim, I remove
the wheelhead and the splash pan, and insert the box over the drive shaft,
put the wheelhead back on, then the Grip, and trim. Then I dump the
trimmings into a bucket for recycling later. I'm surprised that someone
hasn't marketed a plastic "clay catcher," but maybe there's not enough of a
market for it.

Marjory

Malone & Dean McRaine on mon 29 dec 97

Aloha Pam, et. al.
I love my G.Grip, great time saver. I wish somebody had given me one instead
of spending the $$$ for it. I think every trick you've got in your bag makes
it easier to make good pots and stay in business. I also use two other ways
of trimming. I have a big bat with foam rubber glued to the top for
trimming large, flat forms that the Grip can't do. Just set it on there and
the foam will hold it. Also one of the most convenient ways to trim is to
put a thin film of water on the wheelhead, line up your piece with the
centering rings and as your piece absorbs water it will stick to the wheel.
You can center it perfectly even if it's really crooked. When you're done
gently pull your piece sideways to break it loose. Don't take your hands off
it while the wheel's moving, sometimes they come unstuck. I've never been
able to get the hang of that tapping trick. Sticking pots down with clay
wads is a time waster and a bother, I never do it. Another thing I've
learned about trimming is to make sure that the lip of my pot is perfectly
level. After your form is all finished recheck that the rim is dead level
then when you turn it over to trim it won't move around like a belly dancer.
Whatever method you use this will make it easier.

Dean from Kauai, the wettest place on earth (really-450 inches average
annual rainfall in the center of the island) days like this I believe it.

Rosanne Cleveland-King on mon 29 dec 97

Regarding the Giffen Grip; I have been using one since they
first came out, must be 20 years ago or so. I consider it just
as important as my wheel. If you only do a few pieces, perhaps
you can live without one, but it is an important time saving
device if you do production. Since you own one, give it a try
and you will never let it go!
Rosanne Cleveland-King
Mud Pies Pottery

Taube Wilson on tue 30 dec 97

Pam,
Hi! I've been throwing for about 4 years(with a couple of 6-month
breaks). I own a wheel, but no kiln. I haven't done anything like
production work yet, so my experience is based on sporadic periods of
high-volume throwing(at home, usually before Christmas, etc.) and less
active but steadier classroom work. I can't tap on center, though
I'd like to learn how, but I do a pretty good job of centering by hand.

I bought a grip about 2 years ago on the recommendation of friends and
one teacher, all of whom thought it was the neatest thing since sliced
bread. I also had one teacher who thought it was a travesty.

I'm a bit sorry I bought it. I almost never use it. The exception
is when I have a lot of pieces to trim in a hurry(such as just before
Christmas or when we're going to do raku in just a couple of days).

The major advantage is that it's much faster to center using the grip.
In my case, it does *not* center more accurately(more
about that later). Because it's fast, I'm a little less reluctant
to remove the piece from the wheel, evaluate it, and re-center it.
But I almost never do that, anyway(I have a mirror opposite my wheel).
Another advantage is that you can use it to trim tall or narrow-necked
pieces without a chuck.

There are several disadvantages. One is that it sits high up on
the wheelhead, so trimmings fly everywhere. If that bothers you, you
can cut a cardboard box to fit around the back of the wheel, or find
some other way to catch them. Another is that it's a little bit of
a pain in the neck to set it up, attach all the little parts, etc.
It would be less so if you had a lot of similarly shaped pieces to
trim. But the thing that bothers me the most is that you have to
make a decision about exactly *where* you want to center your piece.
The grip made me aware that my thrown pieces are not perfectly
symmetric, since the "center" of the bottom is different if I
put the little grippers lower or higher on my pot. Because you only
have a few lengths of metal bars to choose from you don't have as much
control about where your center it as you do when you center by hand.
So you're giving up a certain personal touch because of that
mechanization. (BTW, I don't consider the minor lack of symmetry a
flaw-it's just the way (my)handmade pottery is). Also, sometimes, if
the little grippers are high up enough, they interfere with my
trimming(although I generally try not to trim too far down the sides).
Finally, you obviously won't be able to use it on forms that are wider
or narrower than the grip allows.

I used to think about selling it, but at this point I've decided
to keep it around. I could see using it for trimming production
work, and it's been useful for the few times I've been in a hurry,
but if I didn't already own it I wouldn't run out and buy one now.
I find hand-centering much more satisfying, and I always feel
a little silly when I get out the grip. I think it would really be a
shame to use the grip in place of learning centering skills. Maybe my
attitude will be different when I'm doing a lot of production(soon, I
hope), but I still can't imagine using it on everything.

By the way, the pieces I trimmed using the grip look just fine - that
is, I don't think anyone looking at them would think the trimming looks
mechanical or different, it's more just a personal feeling I have about
having centered it myself.

If there's any way you can try one out before opening yours, I'd
highly recommend it.

I hope this helps.
-Taube Wilson in Annandale, Va.



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Billy Winer on sat 3 jan 98

I have been following the discussions about the Giffin grip over the last few
months and have been amazed to read all of the glowing reports about it. I
am glad to finally see a negative comment and see that I am not the onlyone
who does not find the grip to be that great. The centering is not the best, and
the pieces to be trimmed are not held tightly enough throughout the procedure o
f trimming. One has to keep re-tightening throught the trimming. Also, the
attachments for asymetric pieces are very difficult to tighten as they have sma
ll screw heads to deal with. In summary, I have not been happy with my Giffin
grip and wonder why are so many people singing it's praises!

Richard Harris on sun 4 jan 98

Billy Winer wrote:
In summary, I have not been happy with my Giffin
> grip and wonder why are so many people singing it's praises!

I was interested in this thread too, and finally acquired one about a
month ago. Before that, I had given one a try at a college, but wasn't
impressed with it because every time i slowed down the wheel, the thing
would unwind and the pot would fly off! So, when I read all the
comments, I thought the one i tried may have been flawed or something.
I was visiting a friend while she used hers, and she said she liked it a
lot. I asked about the flying off, and she had never heard of such a
thing. So I went ahead and got one, but sure enough, when i slow it
down suddenly, the little holders loosen, not as dramatically as the
first one i tried, but they do open up. I have learned not to slow down
so suddenly. Re. centering, no i do not find it perfectly accurate, so
i took a blue felt marker and drew rings on it that i use to pre-center
the pot, then watch closely as i tighten the stoppers, and sometimes
nudge the pot one way or the other, and retighten it.
However, on the whole, i think that after i learn it's idiosyncrasies,
i will like it. I used it earlier today, and found i do not at all miss
using clay wads (that dry out and get your hands messy etc,)
Michelle Harris
heorot@sk.sympatico.ca

Paul Bush on sat 3 oct 98

Do any of you Clayarters who don't like their Giffin Grip want to sell
it to me? I'll buy retail if I have to, but would much prefer to
recycle one already made but sitting unused on someone's shelf.

Thanks.

Paul Bush
Portland, OR

marc mancuso on sat 3 oct 98

Hi all,
Now, I don't pay no attention to spelling on the list, us's being so
pressed for time and all....

But those nice people at Giffin Grip (that's Giffin, not "Giffen") might
hear us complimenting their find product back and forth and get a mite
testy that we slipped up on the name itself.

There. Forgive me, but now I feel much better.

Marc Mancuso
mmancuso@mit.edu
http://web.mit.edu/mmancuso/www/

"Never wrestle with a pig: You both get all dirty, and the pig likes it."

The Buchanans on sun 6 dec 98

A strip of 1 in. foam taped around the splash pan extending up about 4in. =
will
catch most flying scrap.

The bull's eye level I mentioned before is a great help with giffin when you=
are
trimming shapes with uneven rims such as pitchers.

Karen Greene on sun 27 jun 99

I have an old giffin grip that I can't seem to get to center porplerly
anymore. Does anyone have any ideas about why this is happening? Is it
part of the natrual aging process for this tool? Is anyone from giffin
on the list and could possibly respond directly to me. This is a
terribly irritating problem as you might imagine.

Karen Greene
Pottery In Motion
kgreen@olywa.net
360-357-8699

Karen Greene on sun 27 jun 99

I have an old giffin grip that I can't seem to get to center porplerly
anymore. Does anyone have any ideas about why this is happening? Is it
part of the natrual aging process for this tool? Is anyone from giffin
on the list and could possibly respond directly to me. This is a
terribly irritating problem as you might imagine.

Karen Greene
Pottery In Motion
kgreen@olywa.net
360-357-8699

L.P. Skeen on mon 28 jun 99

Karen Greene wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I have an old giffin grip that I can't seem to get to center porplerly
> anymore. Does anyone have any ideas about why this is happening? Is it
> part of the natrual aging process for this tool? Is anyone from giffin
> on the list and could possibly respond directly to me. This is a
> terribly irritating problem as you might imagine.
>
> Karen Greene
> Pottery In Motion
> kgreen@olywa.net
> 360-357-8699

Karen,
I have a brand spanking NEW giffin grip, and it does the same thing. :(
Please lemme know if you get an answer.


--
Lisa Skeen ICQ# 15554910

Living Tree Handmade Pottery & Soaps, Summerfield, NC

****A clean house is a sign of a misspent life.****

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cathy durham on mon 28 jun 99

I had a grip that would not hold a pot- the arms kept backing off.
What resolved it was adding one more of the grip shims-I had received
2 with my GRIP and needed a third.

I had gotten in contact with GIFFIN 1-800-445-5969 and found that they
were VERY HELPFUL in figuring out what the problem was. They sent me
replacement parts at no charge. If you have an OLD GRIP, ask them to
also send you their new(er) assembly/use instructions- the old
directions that I had gotten with mine in '93 did not have any info on
the purpose/use/placement of the shims.

I hope this helps!
Cathy in New Zealand

Charlie and Linda on mon 28 jun 99

Karen Greene wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I have an old giffin grip that I can't seem to get to center porplerly
> anymore. Does anyone have any ideas about why this is happening? Is it
> part of the natrual aging process for this tool? Is anyone from giffin
> on the list and could possibly respond directly to me. This is a
> terribly irritating problem as you might imagine.
>
> Karen Greene
> Pottery In Motion
> kgreen@olywa.net
> 360-357-8699

Karen

I had fits with my Giffin Grip after 5 years. Seems the black foam pads
lose their spongy quality over the years. (Had been trying to reset the
the base to make up for it being out of center to no avail) Just buy a
replacement set of sliders and it'll be good as new.

Good luck

Charlie Riggs

Jim Cullen on tue 29 jun 99

Can you be more explicit? What isn't centered, the grip or the pot? We need
more info....Thanks.

Joyce Lee on tue 29 jun 99

The Giffin has been a potsaver for me, but I have something I like
better ... I think the idea came from Dannon ... am presently using that
woveny looking, slightly rubbery, textured shelf-liner stuff found here
in the grocery stores as well as in the various Marts. My #1 Support
Person glued it on a couple of bats and I marking-penned it with circle
guides. Perfect and so fast. I do have to keep a hand on the pot to
insure stability but it's worth it not to have pinched in spots on my
rims. I trimmed a larger bowl on a bat #1SP made, since the bowl
wouldn't fit on my regular bats (braggin' here ... gotta' stop that ...
kiln gods are getting me for outrageous bragging and I still don't seem
to be able to stop...), used this liner, didn't even glue it down, and
it was easy ... bowl wouldn't have fit inside the grip (there I go
again... ) Of course, I broke through the bottom of my largest bowl
ever, but not fault of the tools ... then I tried to transform it into
a giant colander and broke down the sides. I also messed up a bisque
firing (!), had a glaze boilover, and one of my better forms developed a
crack in the bottom ... have only had three cracked bottoms in four
years (thanks to Clayart advice)...I know what's happening ... I'm just
full of myself and getting careless all around ... think I'm such a
hotshot! (and I don't even keep my studio clean, either ...)

Joyce
In the Mojave going out to chase the lizard out of the studio before he
crawls inside a bowl and dies ... hate that.

L.P. Skeen on wed 30 jun 99

Jim Cullen wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Can you be more explicit? What isn't centered, the grip or the pot? We need
> more info....Thanks.

The pot. It'll be centered for a few turns, then not. :*(

--
Lisa Skeen ICQ# 15554910
Living Tree Handmade Pottery & Soaps, Summerfield, NC
****A clean house is a sign of a misspent life.****
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Bobbi Bassett on wed 30 jun 99

In a message dated 6/27/99 11:48:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
kgreene@olywa.net writes:

>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I have an old giffin grip that I can't seem to get to center properly
> anymore. Does anyone have any ideas about why this is happening? Is it
> part of the natrual aging process for this tool? Is anyone from giffin
> on the list and could possibly respond directly to me. This is a
> terribly irritating problem as you might imagine.
>
I haven't been able to center mine from day one. I did everything they said
to no avail. Let us all know if you find any answers to this problem. It's a
chunk of change to have just sitting on the shelf.

Bobbi in PA
Attitude is the mind's paintbrush.[Penny]

Karen Greene on wed 30 jun 99

Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:25:59 EDT
From: Jim Cullen
Subject: Re: giffin grip

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

Can you be more explicit? What isn't centered, the grip or the pot? We
need
more info....Thanks.

Jim, I cant get either to center properly. The bottom plate wont center
to the scale on the back anymore. Maybe I need new clamps for the wheel
head? But, the degree of "uncenteredness" in the pot is not
proportional to the bottom plate. The top plate actually slides back and
forth inside of the bottom plate. One thing I did remember though, I
need to check the pads that hold the pots for wear. When they get worn
unevenly from each other, the pot wont center. I have changed the
pads/hands once already. I did realize that I had an old one on with one
of the newer ones. That should help alot. But, there is still the
problem of the top plates movement. How much movement is reasonable?
This is absolutely my most favorite tool and has stood me in good steed
for many years. It may be that its just old and worn.

Karen Greene
Pottery In Motion
kgreene@olywa.net

Lois Ruben Aronow on thu 1 jul 99

------------------
On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:12:08 -0400, L.P. Skeen wrote:

=3ELois Ruben Aronow wrote:
=3E
=3E=3E This happens to me too. I have a brand new giffen grip, and my pots
=3E=3E tend to =22unwind=22, loosen and move during trimming.
=3E
=3EThat's it exactly=21 It's annoying as hell, because I consider my pots =
to be
pretty
=3Edang good, most of the time, then this stupid trimmy thing makes the feet=
bad.
:(
=3E
=3EAnd another thing....I think the =22hands=22 are too hard, and they curve=
the wrong
=3Eway. They're supposed to be holding things that curve out, yet the hands=
curve
=3EIN. Not smart.

Agreed=21=21 At least I know I'm not using the dang thing the wrong way.
So what does one do about this?

Pottery by Dai on thu 1 jul 99

Hi, Bobbi in PA - are you sure you have all three of the adjustable
"L"-shpaed pieces that hold the grip onto the wheelhead adjusted to exactly
the same place? If one is even one notch out, it won't be centered.
Best luck!
Dai in Kelowna
potterybydai@home.com

Les Crimp on fri 2 jul 99

I have a Griffin Grip that I bought brand new... it will not (repeat: WILL
NOT) center a pot for trimming. It is always just a "little bit" out and it
is impossible to get a well centered foot on anything. I haver not thrown
it out but was tempted several times.

I still think there must be something wrong with this Grip .... mavbe I am
running it backwards ar something ... I would sure like it if someone at
Griggin Grip Co. could reply to these questions.

Les Crimp in Nanoose Bay, B.C. (where it just will not stop raining... gray
skies....gray moods)
lcrimp@island.net


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobbi Bassett
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: giffin grip


>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>In a message dated 6/27/99 11:48:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>kgreene@olywa.net writes:
>
>>
>> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>> I have an old giffin grip that I can't seem to get to center properly
>> anymore. Does anyone have any ideas about why this is happening? Is it
>> part of the natrual aging process for this tool? Is anyone from giffin
>> on the list and could possibly respond directly to me. This is a
>> terribly irritating problem as you might imagine.
>>
>I haven't been able to center mine from day one. I did everything they said
>to no avail. Let us all know if you find any answers to this problem. It's
a
>chunk of change to have just sitting on the shelf.
>
>Bobbi in PA
>Attitude is the mind's paintbrush.[Penny]
>

Bryan on sat 3 jul 99

Another possibility is that the wheel head is not true. The bat pins on mine
are slightly off. I need to make sure that I put bats back on with the same
alignment.

I find the grip essential for what I do, having it not center would be
incredibly frustrating!

Bryan
-----Original Message-----
From: Les Crimp
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: giffin grip


>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I have a Griffin Grip that I bought brand new... it will not (repeat: WILL
>NOT) center a pot for trimming. It is always just a "little bit" out and
it
>is impossible to get a well centered foot on anything. I haver not thrown
>it out but was tempted several times.

Julia M. Townsend on sun 4 jul 99

I have the same problem with my wheel... I have to make sure that I put the
bats on in the alignment... all my bats are now marked.

I also tighten the grip an "extra" bit after it looks like it is tight as it
would invairably come loose. I also wiggle the pot a bit before the extra
little tighten on the grip... I found, for me, that also helps out.

JuliE

Bryan wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Another possibility is that the wheel head is not true. The bat pins on mine
> are slightly off. I need to make sure that I put bats back on with the same
> alignment.
>
> I find the grip essential for what I do, having it not center would be
> incredibly frustrating!
>
> Bryan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Les Crimp
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 8:19 AM
> Subject: Re: giffin grip
>
> >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >I have a Griffin Grip that I bought brand new... it will not (repeat: WILL
> >NOT) center a pot for trimming. It is always just a "little bit" out and
> it
> >is impossible to get a well centered foot on anything. I haver not thrown
> >it out but was tempted several times.

Bonnie Staffel on mon 5 jul 99

July 3, 1999

Hi Clayarters!!!

I have not seen this side issue discussed as a possible cause of your
uncentered Giffin Grip:

Is your wheel head LEVELboth ways???

Are your sliders worn which travel the tracks?

Is the edge of your wheel head cleaned of dry clay when you place the GG
on it?

Have you tightened the nuts down tightly after getting it centered the
first time? Perhaps it is moving slightly so there may be a wiggle.

I have two wheels. One I throw on and the other is my trimming wheel.
Have used this method with no problems with centering. After twenty
years feel I should get new sliders as the plastic trackers are looking
worn and they do not want to move easily. Added paraffin to both sides
and this helped.

Good luck.

Bonnie Staffel, Charlevoix, MI where the tourists are now here and have
to wait for a break in the traffic to get to work.

Joyce Lee on sun 1 oct 00


If you've been around awhile you know that I am a major fan of the grip.
It has helped me LEARN to center my work waiting to be trimmed. I love
it. BUT much faster for me now is a round piece of that shelf-liner
stuff..... can't remember what it's called, but it is bumpy and rubbery
and clings to the wheel and pots cling to it. I've drawn circles on it
so it's easier to place a pot correctly when I want to trim. I place it
on the wheel so fast, much much quicker than making clay keys to hold a
pot down..... put the pot on, use a finger from my left hand to secure
the pot if needed... and trim away. So fast ..... not for irregularly
rimmed pots, but for others it's great. Got it from Clayart.... don't
recall from whom.

Joyce
In the Mojave wishing she'd remembered to thank John H. and Earl and
Louis Katz...... I do not know how that happened. John's posts and
Edouardo's are usually over my head at this point, but I file each and
every one for the time when I finally get there..... if I'm still able
to totter to the computer when that happens.

CTaylor174@AOL.COM on thu 27 jun 02


Hi June:(I sent this privately to you but the e-mail said that you were not
accepting e-mail from my account. Do not know what gives as this has never
happened before. Drop me an e-mail).

I noticed your post on the Giffin Grip. Sometimes there is so much clay
trapped in the area where the slides go that you have to take the thing apart
and wash it. This has happened to be a couple of times.

Also Giffin Grip people are so great that they replaced one that I had had
for over 8 years with a brand new one. Something happened to it and it
seemed to warp. I just love it and always have it set up on my second wheel.

If you drop them a line or maybe even see if they have a web side, explain
your problem to them and I am sure that they can help you.

Am going to Santa Ynez with my Friesian horse this weekend and we are going
to be driving in the vineyards in a competition. I am looking forward to it.

Hope that you are well.

Bye Chris

Joanna Jorgensen on fri 27 sep 02


Marianne,

Where are you shopping?

In my experience they range in price from 125.00 to 150.00.

Call Bennett's Pottery Supply in Central FL, they have a web page
w/phone #, I know they have it for about 125.00.



Joanna Jorgensen

Coconut Creek, FL

Catherine White on mon 30 sep 02


I bought mine for $129 from Nevada Dan at:

http://store.yahoo.com/nevadadans/giffingrip.html

Catherine in Yuma, AZ
Two ancient electric kilns. One Paragon 18" x 20".
One in-process Crusader 24"X 27". Both outside.
It never rains here at the Mexican border.
One partner, one kid, three cats.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joanna Jorgensen"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: Giffin Grip


> Marianne,
>
> Where are you shopping?
>
> In my experience they range in price from 125.00 to 150.00.
>

Marion Butters on fri 28 may 04


Does anyone have a used Giffin Grip that they would like to sell?
Please send location, price, and condition (any missing parts, etc)
in your response. Thanks. M

Reg Wearley on sat 29 may 04


Hi Marion,
A friend has decided not to go into pottery
afterall even though she had just equipped her
new studio. She wanted me to sell everything
she had, and all I have left is a Giffin Grip
and a Nexus balance-BOTH are new in the box.
$200 for both-you pay for shipping.
--Reg Wearley
Big Arm, Montana


--- Marion Butters wrote:
> Does anyone have a used Giffin Grip that they
> would like to sell?
> Please send location, price, and condition (any
> missing parts, etc)
> in your response. Thanks. M
>
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Butters, Marion on mon 31 may 04


Reg,
I am asking about a used Giffin Frip rather than a new one. New can be =
gotten at $139 through one source, but I guess you would say that I need =
to keep the price low and $200 is more than I can do at this time. =
Marion

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 11:53 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Giffin Grip


Hi Marion,
A friend has decided not to go into pottery
afterall even though she had just equipped her
new studio. She wanted me to sell everything
she had, and all I have left is a Giffin Grip
and a Nexus balance-BOTH are new in the box.
$200 for both-you pay for shipping.
--Reg Wearley
Big Arm, Montana


--- Marion Butters wrote:
> Does anyone have a used Giffin Grip that they
> would like to sell?
> Please send location, price, and condition (any
> missing parts, etc)
> in your response. Thanks. M
>
>
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Marc Hudson on tue 1 jun 04


Hi Reg,

$200 for both, new in the box is a good deal. What is the postage to=20
Espa=F1ola, NM?=20

Marc Hudson
Playing with Fire
Espa=F1ola, NM, USA
www.artfulnm.org/hudson.html

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Reg Wearley
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Sat, 29 May 2004 21:52:49 -0700
Subject: Re: Giffin Grip

> Hi Marion,
> A friend has decided not to go into pottery
> afterall even though she had just equipped her
> new studio. She wanted me to sell everything
> she had, and all I have left is a Giffin Grip
> and a Nexus balance-BOTH are new in the box.
> $200 for both-you pay for shipping.
> --Reg Wearley
> Big Arm, Montana
>=20
> --- Marion Butters wrote:
> > Does anyone have a used Giffin Grip that they
> > would like to sell?
> > Please send location, price, and condition (any
> > missing parts, etc)
> > in your response. Thanks. M
> >
> >
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Reg Wearley on wed 2 jun 04


Hi Marc,
Thanks for the message. The box containing
both the Giffen Grip and the Balance weighs
13 pounds and UPS would charge $11.29 to get
it to you. If you are interested you could
send me a money order and I could send it
right away. Let me know. Thanks,
-Reg Wearley
2076 Walking Horse Ln
Big Arm, Montana 59910
phone: 406-849-5099


--- Marc Hudson
wrote:
> Hi Reg,
>
> $200 for both, new in the box is a good deal.
> What is the postage to
> Espaņola, NM?
>
> Marc Hudson
> Playing with Fire
> Espaņola, NM, USA
> www.artfulnm.org/hudson.html
>
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: Reg Wearley
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Sent: Sat, 29 May 2004 21:52:49 -0700
> Subject: Re: Giffin Grip
>
> > Hi Marion,
> > A friend has decided not to go into pottery
> > afterall even though she had just equipped
> her
> > new studio. She wanted me to sell everything
> > she had, and all I have left is a Giffin Grip
> > and a Nexus balance-BOTH are new in the box.
> > $200 for both-you pay for shipping.
> > --Reg Wearley
> > Big Arm, Montana
> >
> > --- Marion Butters wrote:
> > > Does anyone have a used Giffin Grip that
> they
> > > would like to sell?
> > > Please send location, price, and condition
> (any
> > > missing parts, etc)
> > > in your response. Thanks. M
> > >
> > >
> >
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Seed Crystal on wed 27 jul 05


Hi did you sell this already? If not - what parts are included, what is missing, and what is condition?

Thanks.
SC

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