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finishing bottoms on mugs

updated fri 28 feb 97

 

R Wuetherick on mon 10 feb 97

I was taught that a small foot ring was in fact required for a
coffe mug. This is to keep the heat from direct contact with
the surface it is sitting on. Hand, nice coffee table silly
bugger forgot to use coaster, etc...

opinions please?

Rod

> Hi folks:
>
> I also find it unnecessary to form foot rings on all pots. With
mugs, I
> prefer a flat bottom for stability. The surface is tooled for
eveness and
>
> snip
>
> Laurie Cowell,
> Waterloo, Ontario, Canada

ED Cowell on tue 11 feb 97

At 09:23 02/10/97 EST, R Wuetherick wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I was taught that a small foot ring was in fact required for a
>coffe mug. This is to keep the heat from direct contact with
>the surface it is sitting on. Hand, nice coffee table silly
>bugger forgot to use coaster, etc...
>
>opinions please?
>
>Rod
>
>> Hi folks:
>>
>> I also find it unnecessary to form foot rings on all pots. With
>mugs, I
>> prefer a flat bottom for stability. The surface is tooled for
>eveness and
>>
>> snip
>>
>> Laurie Cowell,
>> Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
>

Rob: I don't have much patience with people who don't use coasters on
surfaces that require protection. Probably, I should have mentioned that I
feel the slight concave surface helps somewhat in reducing the area of
surface in contact with the mug bottom. Let's be realistic here - even the
foot ring gets hot and could cause damage.

Laurie Cowell,
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada

Dave and Pat Eitel on tue 11 feb 97

>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I was taught that a small foot ring was in fact required for a
>coffe mug. This is to keep the heat from direct contact with
>the surface it is sitting on. Hand, nice coffee table silly
>bugger forgot to use coaster, etc...
>
>opinions please?
>
>Rod

Rod--I'm with Laurie on this one. A mug is not a teacup--which undoubtedly
would look better with a foot rim. To me a mug has a flat bottom. The
explanation of the function of the rim--to keep the heat off the
tabletop--seems a bit farfetched. I mean, how hot IS a cup of coffee, tea
or chocolate, anyway? We're not talking about molten steel here. I think
the issue is really aesthetic rather than functional in this case. And if
your mug design looks great with a trimmed foot and dumb without one, then
by all means foot it. And vice versa.

Later...Dave

Dave Eitel
Cedar Creek Pottery
Cedarburg, WI
pots@cedarcreekpottery.com
http://www.cedarcreekpottery.com

Vince Pitelka on tue 11 feb 97

At 09:23 AM 2/10/97 -0500, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I was taught that a small foot ring was in fact required for a
>coffe mug. This is to keep the heat from direct contact with
>the surface it is sitting on. Hand, nice coffee table silly
>bugger forgot to use coaster, etc...

Required?? Required?? By whom? The clay police? I like a trimmed foot on
certain shapes. But most coffee mugs look dumb with a trimmed foot. If you
want to hold in the heat, or protect the antique table, use a coaster or hotpad.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@Dekalb.Net
Phone - home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801
Appalachian Center for Crafts
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166

Eleanora Eden on wed 12 feb 97

Hi Rod and all,

I guess I have a hard time believing that anything we can do as potters
is going to keep sloppy people from wrecking nice furniture. An unglazed
footring can scratch that nice table....

For myself I figure people who can afford my pots are going to use them
with care and I stick to doing what pleases me most. My vote on this
subject is for a glazed bottom, footring or no.

Eleanora


> I was taught that a small foot ring was in fact required for a
> coffe mug. This is to keep the heat from direct contact with
> the surface it is sitting on. Hand, nice coffee table silly
> bugger forgot to use coaster, etc...

Eleanora Eden 802 869-2003
Paradise Hill
Bellows Falls, VT 05101 eden@maple.sover.net

[the address fga@world.std.com is temporary. My mailbox at
eden@maple.sover.net still works -- do not change address books]

Sam Cuttell on thu 13 feb 97



>For myself I figure people who can afford my pots are going to use them
>with care and I stick to doing what pleases me most. My vote on this
>subject is for a glazed bottom, footring or no.
>
Hi Eleanora:

Glazed bottom?????? How does one produce a glazed bottom when firing to
^10? Does this mean that high-fire potters should cease producing mugs or
anything else that might be set upon a table?

My mugs have a flat bottom (sea-shell pattern cut-off) with a bevelled edge
to give "lift" to the mug. *All* my pieces are polished with a teflon
cleaning pad prior to loading into bisque; all pieces are gone over
carefully with 220 sandpaper as they exit the glaze fire. They end up
almost as smooth as porcelin.


sam - alias the cat lady
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(SW Ontario)
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Eleanora Eden on fri 14 feb 97

Hi Sam and All,

Actually, although I do low fire now, I fired everything on stilts when I
did cone 10 so as far as I can see the decision as where to glaze has
nothing to do with temperature. Of course it does have to do with clay
body, as you have to have a body that isn't gonna slump on stilts.

And I don't remember saying anything about what other people should do, I
only mentioned what I like best on the subject of mugs and their bottoms.

Eleanora

Eleanora Eden 802 869-2003
Paradise Hill
Bellows Falls, VT 05101 eden@maple.sover.net

[the address fga@world.std.com is temporary. My mailbox at
eden@maple.sover.net still works -- do not change address books]

JULIE ATWOOD on fri 14 feb 97

Required? Absolutely not. I shudder at the word "required". If you'll
notice, many, MANY coffee mugs have no foot ring. In fact, I don't know
if I've ever run into a commercially produced coffee mug WITH a foot
ring. Although the idea of distancing the heat from contact points is
very valid, it is in no way required. Ultimately, since coffee mugs have
been done either way for years, it's up to the potter. Most potters
prefer a more stable surface to their bottoms, to prevent spillage, but
some may also decide the ringed foot may be a more appropriate approach.
Like I said above...it comes down to your own personal opinion...Nothing
is required.
Julie in Seattle

On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, R Wuetherick wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I was taught that a small foot ring was in fact required for a
> coffe mug. This is to keep the heat from direct contact with
> the surface it is sitting on. Hand, nice coffee table silly
> bugger forgot to use coaster, etc...
>
> opinions please?
>
> Rod
>
> > Hi folks:
> >
> > I also find it unnecessary to form foot rings on all pots. With
> mugs, I
> > prefer a flat bottom for stability. The surface is tooled for
> eveness and
> >
> > snip
> >
> > Laurie Cowell,
> > Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
>

Bob Hanlin on tue 25 feb 97

At 09:23 AM 2/10/97 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I was taught that a small foot ring was in fact required for a
>coffe mug. This is to keep the heat from direct contact with
>the surface it is sitting on. Hand, nice coffee table silly
>bugger forgot to use coaster, etc...

I haven't seen this point raised in this discussion. My wife told me early
on in my mug making life not to put foot rings on my mugs. She says when
she takes them out of the dishwasher she doesn't want to mop the water out
of the foot rings first.


Bob Hanlin
Oklahoma City, OK
bhanlin@ionet.net

Doug Gray on wed 26 feb 97

>My wife told me early
> on in my mug making life not to put foot rings on my mugs. She says when
> she takes them out of the dishwasher she doesn't want to mop the water out
> of the foot rings first.
>
> Bob Hanlin
> Oklahoma City, OK
> bhanlin@ionet.net


I've seen people cut notches or punch holes in the foot ring to allow
the water to drain out. How's that for efficient design. Works well
on all items with foot rings (not just mugs) that get washed in the
dish washer.

Doug Gray
Alpine, TX