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updated sat 17 jan 04

 

Katherine S. Urban on fri 13 jun 97

When I was in college, a professer gave us a tip on casting plaster face
masks. We first tied cheesecloth over our models face and hair. Then
we just used the plaster cloth. We cut it up in small strips and then
went to work. The chesecloth kept the plaster out of our hair and no
messy vaseline. Much easier to clean up. Just remove it and voila, we
were done.
Using two peices of cheesecloth made it even easier. One for the face
and one for the hair.
Kaye

Stern HQ on sun 15 jun 97

About the cheesecloth underlay for face mask making, how much detail is
lost using cheesecloth instead of vaseline? TIA Jeni in Denver

On Fri, 13 Jun 1997, Katherine S. Urban wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> When I was in college, a professer gave us a tip on casting plaster face
> masks. We first tied cheesecloth over our models face and hair. Then
> we just used the plaster cloth. We cut it up in small strips and then
> went to work. The chesecloth kept the plaster out of our hair and no
> messy vaseline. Much easier to clean up. Just remove it and voila, we
> were done.
> Using two peices of cheesecloth made it even easier. One for the face
> and one for the hair.
> Kaye
>

Katherine S. Urban on sun 15 jun 97

Stern HQ wrote:
>
> About the cheesecloth underlay for face mask making, how much detail is
> lost using cheesecloth instead of vaseline? TIA Jeni in Denver
>
> On Fri, 13 Jun 1997, Katherine S. Urban wrote:
>
> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > When I was in college, a professer gave us a tip on casting plaster face
> > masks. We first tied cheesecloth over our models face and hair. Then
> > we just used the plaster cloth. We cut it up in small strips and then
> > went to work. The chesecloth kept the plaster out of our hair and no
> > messy vaseline. Much easier to clean up. Just remove it and voila, we
> > were done.
> > Using two peices of cheesecloth made it even easier. One for the face
> > and one for the hair.
> > Kaye
> >
I do not remember losing any detail as the cheesecloth is so soft and
fine. It seems to settle into small crevices. I did not do this very
much but my prof was ready to retire and she had been doing it for
years. It couldn't hurt to try one and if it didn't work, well,
something new was tried and rejected. I enjoyed doing it and am going
to do some this summer. The students, I tutor, would balk at vaseline,
I am afraid.
Kaye
Kaye

Evelyn Welka on sat 22 jul 00


I've been following the string on hand impressions and someone expressed
curiosity on how the face masks were done. I did them with high schoolers a
couple of years back.

Here's how it works.
Prep two kids at a time:
rub petroleum jelly on their faces like suntan lotion, tie hair back, cut a
box lid to fit their face through. Have them lie down on their backs on
pillows covered with plastic wrap. They push their face through the mold.
Put extra goopy petroleum jelly on anything that in hairy such as facial
hair, eyebrows, especially eyelashes. This will stop the hair from getting
pulled out with the mask. Then the stick straws cut in half up their noses.
This will act like a snorkel. Have them practice breathing out of them as
they lay there. Place goop around the straw to seal the nostril. Pour
pudding like plaster over their face. Have them hold the cardboard and it
will stop the plaster from running. Put a pad of paper on their chest so
that they can tell you if they are uncomfortable. Have other students be
their handmaidens. The plaster on your face feels like a warm beach and
sets in about 20 min. Have them wiggle their face to loosen the set mask
before removing it. Do NOT let them open their eyes. Plaster dust seems to
collect around the eyelashes. Have a handmaiden guide them to the sink,
watch them wash their face until all signs of plaster are away from the
eyes. Some people will get red faces from the heat. Make sure if your
working with teens they are not concerned about looking good when they
leave. What worked best was staying afterschool to do girls that were
concerned. They were really motivated I ended up having over half the class
go for this choice. As for the face masks we got some interested results.
Faces were: turned in spouts with open mouths, split into halves on
corresponding pottery, texturized to become part of a tree form, turn into a
brick wall with graffiti. This is truly outrageous. Kids are willing to
experiment with the faces because they know that all they have to do is get
their plaster mold, pour in some clay slip, wait until a thick skin develop,
pour off excess slip, wait for the layer to get hard enough to remove. This
is a must try if you've never done it. It is good not only for the
beginner but experts as well.
Go get plastered! Just in this way though------Evelyn
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David Hendley on thu 15 jan 04


Virtually all manufacturers of respirators make them in sizes.
Most come in S, M, or L, a few are made in only 2 sizes.
If you can't find a good selection locally, call or e-mail Lab
Safety Supply:
http://www.labsafety.com
1-800-356-0783
They have a huge (1600 page) catalog with over 70 pages
of respirators. You biggest problem will be deciding what
brand you want to buy.
If you aren't sure about the size you need, I would suggest buying
a small and a medium, try them on when they come, and return
one. They are happy to accommodate.

David Hendley
david@farmpots.com
http://www.farmpots.com


----- Original Message -----
> I think my face mask is too big. It has to be adjusted just exactly right
or
> there are gaps around the edges. I have to make it so tight , the lines on
> my face from the mask stay for hours after I've taken it off.( Not very
> attractive, I assure you!)
>
> I've never seen different sizes. Does any one know of a place that makes
> different sized face masks?

Randy O'Brien on thu 15 jan 04


Hi Carole,
You can find lots and lots of respirators (many come in multiple sizes) at
Lab Safety Supply http://www.labsafety.com . I spray my glazes and spend
about 4 hours a day wearing a respirator. The bridge of my nose used to get
very sore from the mask and the deep creases stayed on my face for hours
afterwards. I got a North full face respirator from Lab Safety which is a
pleasure to use. You can see it at
http://www.labsafety.com/store/product_group.asp?dept_id=29491&cat_prefix=4W
A . Most potters use a half mask respirator. The full face respirator
has a safety shield for your eyes and makes contact around your face from
the chin to forehead. There is no pressure on the bridge of your nose. It's
well worth the price.

Randy
Tucson, AZ
http://www.dakotacom.net/~rdobrien

Carole Fox on thu 15 jan 04


I think my face mask is too big. It has to be adjusted just exactly right or
there are gaps around the edges. I have to make it so tight , the lines on
my face from the mask stay for hours after I've taken it off.( Not very
attractive, I assure you!)

I've never seen different sizes. Does any one know of a place that makes
different sized face masks?
Carole Fox
Silver Fox Pottery
Elkton, MD
thesilverfox@dol.net

Jennifer Boyer on thu 15 jan 04


http://directsafety.com (800-528-7405)

has a great selection of nice face masks. They carry 7 or 8 styles and
most come in sizes. I think the way to go is to order several and then
return the ones that aren't comfortable...warning tho: I still get
marks on my face! I never do glaze mixing right before I go grocery
shopping! ;-)
Jennifer


On Thursday, January 15, 2004, at 10:20 AM, Carole Fox wrote:

> I think my face mask is too big. It has to be adjusted just exactly
> right or
> there are gaps around the edges. I have to make it so tight , the
> lines on
> my face from the mask stay for hours after I've taken it off.( Not very
> attractive, I assure you!)
>
> I've never seen different sizes. Does any one know of a place that
> makes
> different sized face masks?
> Carole Fox
>
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Kathy Forer on fri 16 jan 04


and if it's a simple paper mask, remember you can trim the edges to fit
better. My snout's short so I snip some above the metal band and the
masks fits better all around.

Kathy
http://kforer.com

Phil Smith on fri 16 jan 04


Folks,
I spray glazes as well.
I use supplied air from a device called "HobbyAir"
I imagine some of the particals are to small for even the HEPA to deal with.
From: http://clmcenterprises.com/hobbyair.htm

Phil...

John Hesselberth on fri 16 jan 04


> and if it's a simple paper mask, remember you can trim the edges to fit
> better.

Just a quick point. Paper masks are absolutely useless in protecting
one from the hazards of the pottery studio. They are much too coarse to
filter out silica dust and the other things we worry about. There was a
good article in Clay Times a couple or three years ago by Monona Rossel
on what kind of mask to buy.

Regards,

John
http://www.frogpondpottery.com
http://www.masteringglazes.com