Brad Sondahl on wed 15 oct 97
I add coiled feet to all my plates and bowls, and have done so for many
years. I can throw the pot to the thickness desired, spend less time
trimming. I just score a ring where the coil goes, slip it, and stick
it on, and smooth with chamois. I'm curious to hear if others use this
method routinely, and if not, I wonder why.
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PO Box 96, Nezperce ID 83543
"Potters do it in the mud..."
Janet H Walker on sat 18 oct 97
...I just score a ring where the coil goes, slip it, and stick it on...
I've done some feet on plates that were made from coils. But, well,
they always bore the telltale marks of being made by hand. Little
lumps and bumps and irregularities. I personally find that charming
rather than offensive but it doesn't suit every piece or every customer.
Have you found ways to make them look more, well, thrown?
My bigger concern, however, is with the fact that coils are round and
hence the amount of contact between the coil and the base of the plate
is rather small (just the tangent, for you math junkies). So, how do
you really ensure a good connection without a lot of smoothing and
fiddling with little attachment coils and so on? I've considered
cutting along one side of the coil so that the point of attachment is
broader but (a) it is hard to shave the coil evenly and (b) it tends
to look a little peculiar, to my eye anyhow.
...and if not, I wonder why...
These are a few of my thoughts. I'm curious too if others have found
some techniques for making interesting feet successfully. Without more
work than you can ever recoup economically, if that is a fair question.
Jan Walker
Cambridge MA USA
douglas gray on sun 19 oct 97
Jan,
I don't normally use coils for feet due to an unexplainable fascination with
trimming, but they are times when a coil just works better so here is how I do
it....
First I roll out the coil. Then, before applying it to the form I press the
coil down against the table top, flattening one side. Sometimes the coil looks
more triangular than round when I'm finished flattening.
Next, I center the form on the wheel and, as it turns, I score the area where
the coil will be attached. I add slip, then the coil and then smooth the coil
in on both sides with my finger. Once I am sure that it is attached well, I get
the wheel going again, add water with a sponge and reshape the coil by throwing
it. If the clay it still soft, you can reshape it to make it more round, or
usually for me, I shape the coil to look like the other feet I normally trim on
other forms.
I have found that this coil and throw method really works well for me, maybe you
can give it a try.
In message Janet H Walker writes:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> ...I just score a ring where the coil goes, slip it, and stick it
> on...
>
> I've done some feet on plates that were made from coils. But, well,
> they always bore the telltale marks of being made by hand. Little
> lumps and bumps and irregularities. I personally find that charming
> rather than offensive but it doesn't suit every piece or every customer.
> Have you found ways to make them look more, well, thrown?
>
> My bigger concern, however, is with the fact that coils are round and
> hence the amount of contact between the coil and the base of the plate
> is rather small (just the tangent, for you math junkies). So, how do
> you really ensure a good connection without a lot of smoothing and
> fiddling with little attachment coils and so on? I've considered
> cutting along one side of the coil so that the point of attachment is
> broader but (a) it is hard to shave the coil evenly and (b) it tends
> to look a little peculiar, to my eye anyhow.
>
> ...and if not, I wonder why...
>
> These are a few of my thoughts. I'm curious too if others have found
> some techniques for making interesting feet successfully. Without more
> work than you can ever recoup economically, if that is a fair question.
>
> Jan Walker
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Douglas E. Gray
Assistant Professor of Art, Ceramics
Francis Marion Univeristy
Florence, South Carolina 29501
dgray@fmarion.edu
anjali gulati on mon 20 oct 97
Try this. Attach a coiled foot to the pot and center the pot on the
wheel. "Throw" the foot with the wheel running. This process needs a
thicker coil.....anjali
On Sat, 18 Oct 1997, Janet H Walker wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> ...I just score a ring where the coil goes, slip it, and stick it on..
>
> I've done some feet on plates that were made from coils. But, well,
> they always bore the telltale marks of being made by hand. Little
> lumps and bumps and irregularities. I personally find that charming
> rather than offensive but it doesn't suit every piece or every customer.
> Have you found ways to make them look more, well, thrown?
>
> My bigger concern, however, is with the fact that coils are round and
> hence the amount of contact between the coil and the base of the plate
> is rather small (just the tangent, for you math junkies). So, how do
> you really ensure a good connection without a lot of smoothing and
> fiddling with little attachment coils and so on? I've considered
> cutting along one side of the coil so that the point of attachment is
> broader but (a) it is hard to shave the coil evenly and (b) it tends
> to look a little peculiar, to my eye anyhow.
>
> ...and if not, I wonder why...
>
> These are a few of my thoughts. I'm curious too if others have found
> some techniques for making interesting feet successfully. Without more
> work than you can ever recoup economically, if that is a fair question.
>
> Jan Walker
> Cambridge MA USA
>
LRANCHO on mon 20 oct 97
Janet H Walker wrote:
> ----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
> ...I just score a ring where the coil goes, slip it, and stick
> it on...
>
> I've done some feet on plates that were made from coils. But, well,
> they always bore the telltale marks of being made by hand. Little
> lumps and bumps and irregularities. I personally find that charming
> rather than offensive but it doesn't suit every piece or every
> customer.
> Have you found ways to make them look more, well, thrown?
>
> My bigger concern, however, is with the fact that coils are round and
> hence the amount of contact between the coil and the base of the plate
>
> is rather small (just the tangent, for you math junkies). So, how do
> you really ensure a good connection without a lot of smoothing and
> fiddling with little attachment coils and so on? I've considered
> cutting along one side of the coil so that the point of attachment is
> broader but (a) it is hard to shave the coil evenly and (b) it tends
> to look a little peculiar, to my eye anyhow.
>
> ...and if not, I wonder why...
>
> These are a few of my thoughts. I'm curious too if others have found
> some techniques for making interesting feet successfully. Without
> more
> work than you can ever recoup economically, if that is a fair
> question.
>
> Jan Walker
> Cambridge MA USA
JAN- there are many ways to improve your feet, if you have access to a
wheel use that to help you. if you don't have a wheel try rolling out a
slab and make a cylinder that you can measure and cut to make a foot. i
have done this before and you can get a lot of feet with minimal work
and they look good.
another thing is why do they have to be round? your feet can be or do
anything, try getting experimental and use your creative side.
amber pelish
archer fl
Russel Fouts on mon 20 oct 97
Janet,
>> My bigger concern, however, is with the fact that coils are round and
hence the amount of contact between the coil and the base of the plate
is rather small (just the tangent, for you math junkies). So, how do
you really ensure a good connection without a lot of smoothing and
fiddling with little attachment coils and so on? I've considered
cutting along one side of the coil so that the point of attachment is
broader but (a) it is hard to shave the coil evenly and (b) it tends
to look a little peculiar, to my eye anyhow. <<
I've put coiled foot rings on plates I make over a hump mold. After forming
the plate spin the banding wheel and lightly score a line to mark where you
want the foot to go. Roll out the coil and lay it around this line patting
it down lightly (I don't use any slip, water or anything at this point, my
clay responds well to this, your mileage may vary). Then I take a chamois
dipped in slip (excess lightly squeezed out), spin the banding wheel again
and "throw" the foot while turning the banding wheel. Works for me.
Hint, if your banding wheel doesn't have enough weight to get a good long
spin, put a concrete patio tile on it then put your "whatever" on top of
that. Round patio tiles work better than square ones.
Russel (just got a giamongous wok to take some molds off of. Very Excited!)
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Carol Jackaway on tue 21 oct 97
Hi,
If you do not want the hand formed round coil as a foot, try rolling a slab
out to the desired thickness and just cut into a strip and put on pot. I use
coils for all my feet and never have a problem (handbuilder).
Carol
CoilLady
Janet H Walker on wed 22 oct 97
...slab plates... hump mold... banding wheel...
Aha. And thanks to all who told me how they "threw" feet on pots
by attaching a coil. Nice work. sounds as if it would make quite
yummy feeling integrated feet.
My problems have come from two directions I think. First, I don't
own a wheel (GASP! and she calls herself a potter!) and second, the
feet that I'm making from the (round) coils are not themselves round.
One very interesting suggestion was to try attaching the feet using
paper clay slip and "magic" (deflocculated) water. This sounds
worth trying for anyone, not just for my convoluted problem.
Thanks gang.
Jan Walker
Cambridge, MA USA
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